1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 Episode backstory: I saw Jeff Garvin's second book is out this week, and I called him up to talk about it! I thought this might be a mini-sode but we ended up talking longer than mini but not as long as maxi, so I'm officially declaring this the first midi-sode of the reboot. Jeff and I get into Joseph Campbell vs. Robert McKee, creative reinvention, and an author's right to be private about the personal experiences that go into a book. &amp;nbsp; Content warning: about 22-ish minutes in, we talk very briefly and nonspecifically about the fact that suicide exists, in the context of Jeff sharing about his bipolar II diagnosis. &amp;nbsp; For full show notes, see the show's Patreon page, no contribution required!&amp;nbsp; This Creative Life with Sara Zarr http://www.sarazarr.com/podcast <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/13976873/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/item/13976873