1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 Chip is a life-long committed atheist. Veronica is 'spiritual but not religious.' In this episode, they discuss whether or not you need 'god' to get and stay sober and what spirituality actually means. &amp;nbsp; To learn more, visit the show notes on our website. Soberful http://soberful.libsyn.com/website <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/6476728/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/193217245