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  <title>Jon Payne of GRN on the Future of the PCA</title>
  <description>Jon Payne, pastor of Christ Church Presbyterian and director of the Gospel Reformation Network, joins us for a frank-but-hopeful assessment of the state of the PCA, an encouragement to cling to the ordinary means of grace, and a history of the currents that led to the formation of the GRN. Here's the website for the upcoming conference we discussed:  https://www.eventbrite.com/e/o-church-arise-a-gospel-reformation-network-conference-tickets-141473812983 </description>
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