1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 I met Frank Grillo through my good friend Bryan Callen. I had been a fan of his for many years from his movies. I could tell he was a real athlete from the way he threw punches in his films, I knew he was a real boxer, but what I didn't know was how deep and thoughtful Frank was as a dad and as a human.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; In this talk, we discuss Bryan Callen the fighter, very briefly 😬-&amp;nbsp; we spend most of the time talking about what we're all dealing with now, the pandemic/lockdown.&amp;nbsp; Frank had some really interesting thoughts. We both share a love and passion for the Sweet Science: Boxing and we did manage to talk about it as well.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; You're going to dig this call with Frank Grillo. Video version in Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/414112336 &amp;nbsp; KNOW FEAR with Tony Blauer https://anchor.fm/tonyblauer <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/14244677/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/dce0d4/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/73467248