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  <title>06: Thayer Willis on Deciding to Join the Family Business</title>
  <description>Introduction Welcome to Let’s Talk Family Enterprise, a podcast that explores the ideas, concepts and models that best serve Family Enterprise Advisors in supporting their clients. &amp;amp;nbsp; Description Today we are very lucky to hear from Thayer Willis, author, speaker and practicing psychotherapist, who gives her unique understanding of the pressures of joining the family business. &amp;amp;nbsp; Thayer was born into the Georgia-Pacific Corporation founding family and brings an insider perspective to helping family members grappling with the decision: do I join the family business or not? &amp;amp;nbsp; Guest bio Thayer Willis is an internationally-recognized author and expert in the area of wealth counseling. Since 1990, she has specialized in helping people of all ages handle the psychological challenges of wealth. A member of the founding family of the multibillion-dollar Georgia-Pacific Corporation, Thayer offers an insider's perspective on the challenges that wealthy families face on a regular basis. &amp;amp;nbsp; Thayer has been interviewed on ABC's Good Morning America and 20/20. Her programs are tailored to individuals and families of affluence, financial professionals, family office advisors and estate planning attorneys. &amp;amp;nbsp; Key Takeaways [0:16] Ruth introduces Thayer Willis, her background and publications, and invites her to speak about her own story growing up in a wealthy family. [7:00] Thayer speaks to the advantages of family businesses, but she also speaks to the pressures of joining them and some of the disadvantages younger generations face. [12:52] In order to help families grapple with whether or not to join the family business, Thayer lays out a few important steps that advisors can follow. [16:06] Thayer shares five to six pertinent questions to ask young family members — starting at about 12 years old. [17:46] Assessments can also be of great use; Thayer lists a few of the ones she has in her tool bag — links below. [19:28] Going into a family business should never be a default position, everyone has the right to consider what it is they want to do for themselves. [20:55] Thayer agrees that going to work outside the family business is a very useful step towards deciding if and when they do come into the family business. [22:23] Ruth takes a moment to summarize Thayer’s recommendations, and Thayer shares a personal story. [26:29] Thayer shares some books that have made an impact on her. [28:30] Thayer offers up tips on how to have a stress free holiday. [32:10] Ruth thanks Thayer for her time and experience and invites listeners to subscribe and tune in for the next episode. &amp;amp;nbsp; Mentioned in this episode Let’s Talk Family Enterprise podcast is brought to you by Family Enterprise Xchange &amp;amp;nbsp; Book:  Navigating the Dark Side of Wealth: A Life Guide for Inheritors, by Thayer Cheatham Willis Book:  Beyond Gold: True Wealth for Inheritors, by Thayer Cheatham Willis &amp;amp;nbsp; Assessments: DISC Enneagram  StrengthsFinder Johnson O’Connor &amp;amp;nbsp; Thayer’s book suggestions:  Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance, by Angela Duckworth  Make It Stick: The Science of Successful Learning, by Peter C. Brown, Henry L. Roediger III, and Mark A. McDaniel &amp;amp;nbsp; More about Family Enterprise Xchange Family Enterprise Xchange FEX on Facebook FEX on Twitter FEX on LinkedIn &amp;amp;nbsp; More about our guest Thayer Willis’ website </description>
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