1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 Maddy Thorson (Celeste, TowerFall) joins us to discuss the evolution of their excellent catalog of platformers, how Celeste made them reconsider difficulty, and the benefits of working with a team you can trust. Show notes: Maddy Thorson Celeste Classic 2 Celeste source code Axiom Verge randomizer Spelunky Dare Challenge Bot Maddy's Mario Maker 2 courses Maddy's Super Mario World Remix Twilight Imperium Detransition, Baby&amp;nbsp;book Dreamsnake book Line Rider Andy's first Spelunky 2 Cosmic Ocean run The Secret Lives of Games http://secretlives.games <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/17745554/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/94660169