1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 Guests include&amp;nbsp;Stacie Pettyjohn, Senior Fellow and Director of the Defense Program at the Center for a New American Security; Becca Wasser, fellow in the Defense Program at CNAS (both Wasser and Pettyjohn begin at the 2:44 mark); Zachary Kallenborn,&amp;nbsp;research affiliate with the Unconventional Weapons and Technology Division of the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (at the 21:14 mark); and Sam Bendett,&amp;nbsp;Adviser with CNA and a member of its Russia Studies Program (at 29:25). Extra reading: Find Pettyjohn and Wasser's War on the Rocks columns here and here; Read Kallenborn's analysis of the Israeli Defense Forces recent swarm operations here; Read a CNA report Bendett co-authored in May entitled &quot;Artificial Intelligence and Autonomy in Russia&quot; (PDF) here. Find a transcript here. Defense One Radio http://defenseoneradio.libsyn.com <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/20510636/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/88AA3C/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/111485234