1 rich Libsyn https://www.libsyn.com 90 600 Grover Cleveland must have been fun -- the guy won the popular vote three times. But was he funny? Sharon Farrell, the caretaker of the Cleveland Birthplace in New Jersey, is our special guest. She gives us a tour of both sides of Grover: The hard-working politician and lawyer, and the fun-loving guy who enjoyed drinking, fishing and hunting with friends. Was Grover a cut-up in private? Did his upright reputation prevent him from joking in public? And what exactly is &quot;rotund jocularity&quot;? Cleveland Birthplace website Sharon on C-SPAN MUSIC: Hail Columbia, &quot;Jersey Bounce&quot; by Benny Goodman and His Orchestra, &quot;Jersey Sweet&quot; by James P. Johnson &amp;nbsp; The Other Side http://dcimprov.libsyn.com/podcast <iframe title="Libsyn Player" style="border: none" src="//html5-player.libsyn.com/embed/episode/id/4759014/height/90/theme/custom/thumbnail/yes/direction/forward/render-playlist/no/custom-color/87A93A/" height="90" width="600" scrolling="no" allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen></iframe> https://assets.libsyn.com/secure/content/13096272