{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Supporting the Front-lines and Improving Communication During a Pandemic with Dr. Saskia Popescu","description":"When she was just 8 years old, Dr. Saskia Popescu\u2019s step-mother handed her a copy of The Hot Zone: The Terrifying True Story of the Origins of the Ebola Virus. That simple act kicked off a string of events that would positively impact thousands of lives. At TIPS, we believe that one person can make a difference and everyone should try. Sometimes that person becomes a renowned infectious diseases epidemiologist and infection preventionist who specializes in biopreparedness, biosecurity, and pandemic response, and guides hospitals and businesses safely through a pandemic, like Dr. Popescu. Other times they make a difference simply by opening the mind of a child to the great possibilities of the world. Both matter.   What\u2019s it really like on the front-lines of healthcare? Dr. Popescu was on the front-lines as an infection preventionist long before the COVID-19 pandemic. And she, like many in the healthcare industry, was already running beyond capacity. Infection Prevention efforts are notoriously under-funded and under-prioritized by hospitals. Dr. Popescu tells us that she\u2019s \u201cnever seen a fully staffed infection prevention department.\u201d Similarly, doctors and nurses were already struggling with an epidemic of clinician burnout. To truly understand the context of what it\u2019s like out there, we must remember that everything our front-line workers are dealing with now is in addition to that existing burden. Dr. Popescu tells us how this feels, how she and her colleagues are dealing with it, and how their hospitals can help. The need, Dr. Popescu tells us, goes way beyond providing access to personal protective equipment (PPE). Some hospitals are smartly supporting their staff with child care, mental health support, meal delivery, and other non-work-related services that go a long way towards helping their teams cope with the pressure.   The challenges of scientific communication Dr. Popescu has been recognized for her communication efforts around the pandemic. In her view, the U.S. has struggled to translate nuanced CDC guidance into actual application, especially when working with people unfamiliar with the science. This is particularly true when dealing with the public. Dr. Popescu shares a few lessons learned through this experience that can and should be improved upon going forward.   We did a poor job of informing the public that guidance was likely to change. We\u2019re dealing with a novel virus, and our experts are learning on the fly in unfavorable conditions. It makes sense that things would change, but it also makes sense that people would react poorly if they were not prepared for that change. The statistics and measures we are focused on may not be the most effective for helping the public understand what\u2019s going on. We focus on positivity rates, death rates, and ICU bed counts, but little on what\u2019s happening outside of the ICU and provide no breakdowns in terms of disease severity.   We also get into the need to account for politics in future communications efforts and much more. Surely, the communications lessons of the COVID-19 pandemic will be dissected for years to come.   Historical Lessons Dr. Popescu also takes us through comparative lessons from past pandemics. The lessons we\u2019re learning today can and should be combined with those past experiences to make our next response that much more effective. We can even look to the experiences of dominant nation-states of the past like Rome. The fall of Rome is a complex topic with many factors, but infectious disease certainly contributed to its demise. Dr. Popescu tells us that \u201cdisease has a big impact on critical infrastructure and can be very destabilizing\u201d. That is evident today, and we\u2019d be wise not to ignore the challenges that followed these events of the past.   The Path Forward The bulk of our efforts today should be focused on saving lives, supporting healthcare workers, distributing vaccines, and ending this pandemic. However, it\u2019s never too early to begin extracting our lessons and planning for the future. Coming out of this, Dr. Popescu says, \u201cI hope that from the top-down, from the bottom-up, we all are much more cognizant of global health security.\u201d That means looking not just at infection control, but antimicrobial resistance testing, lab capacity, healthcare worker capacity, and more. And this can\u2019t be a fleeting interest where we throw a bunch of money at the problem and think we\u2019re handling it. Instead, we need a sustained, methodical approach with clear metrics for success.   This is a wonderfully thoughtful and thorough discussion on one of the most important topics of our time. I hope you get as much out of it as we did.   Dr. Saskia Popescu Saskia Popescu is an infectious disease epidemiologist and Senior Infection Preventionist in Phoenix, Arizona. She holds academic appointments at the University of Arizona and George Mason University, where she lectures on biopreparedness, and pandemic and outbreak response. Since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, she\u2019s worked to prepare for and mitigate the spread of the disease. She has been recognized for her communication efforts around the pandemic, as well as her work on the front lines. Dr. Popescu holds a PhD in Biodefense from George Mason University, a Masters in Public Health with a focus on infectious diseases, and a Masters of Arts in International Security Studies, from the University of Arizona. Dr. Popescu is an Alumni Fellow of the Emerging Leaders in Biosecurity Initiative (ELBI) at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Center for Health Security. She currently serves as a member of the Federation of American Scientists (FAS) Coronavirus Taskforce and is a member of the Committee on Data Needs to Monitor Evolution of SARS-CoV-2 within the Health and Medicine Division of the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine (NASEM).  Follow Dr. Popescu on Twitter (@SaskiaPopescu) Read Dr. Popescu\u2019s bio on the George Mason university biodefense program website   Links and Resources \u2018Long-haul\u2019 covid-19 complications are real. I faced similar problems after surviving Ebola. by DR. Craig Spencer This is the NHS video Dr. Popescu mentioned: https:\/\/twitter.com\/SaskiaPopescu\/status\/1329070401834475522 ","author_name":"The Infection Prevention Strategy (TIPS)","author_url":"https:\/\/deepdive.tips\/","html":"