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  <title>ANTIC Interview 144 - Stephen Lawrow, Mac/65 assembler</title>
  <description>Stephen Lawrow, Mac/65 assembler&#13;
Stephen Lawrow created the Mac/65 assembler, which was published by Optimized Systems Software. Stephen became an employee of OSS, where he also worked on the company&amp;amp;rsquo;s enhanced BASIC products, BASIC XL and BASIC XE.&#13;
This interview took place on November 1, 2015. In this interview we discuss Bill Wilkinson of OSS, whom I previously interviewed.&amp;amp;nbsp;&#13;
Teaser quotes:&#13;
&amp;amp;ldquo;I got so frustrated, I couldn&amp;amp;rsquo;t wait till I got Mac/65 mature enough where it could start assembling itself. So that&amp;amp;rsquo;s why it has a lot of compatibilities syntactically with the Atari Assembler/Editor.&amp;amp;rdquo;&#13;
&amp;amp;ldquo;A lot of us were not formally educated in software development. Because it just didn&amp;amp;rsquo;t exist in the colleges at the time ... Algorithms, searching, and things like that &amp;amp;mdash; all that stuff happened after that.&amp;amp;rdquo;</description>
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