{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"HOJ 012: Noreen Krall & Mallun Yen: Women, Friendship & Business","description":"Welcome to Heels of Justice; these are the stories of women lawyers who are trailblazers in their field and paved the way for the rest of us. Today\u2019s episode is a very special live recording of a conference held in DC by ChIPs and a non-profit whose mission is to advance and connect women working in technology, law, and policy. Mallun Yen was Vice-President of intellectual property at Cisco, launched RPX Corporation and is now the co-founder and COO of SaaStr, the world\u2019s largest community of software as a service business executives. Noreen Krall is Vice President and Chief Litigation Counsel for Apple Inc. and is responsible for all aspects of Apple\u2019s global commercial and intellectual property litigation. Prior to joining Apple, Ms. Krall was the Vice President and Chief IP Counsel for Sun Microsystems, providing legal counsel over all facets of Sun\u2019s intellectual property assets and leading Sun\u2019s engagement on intellectual property law and policy issues. She started her career as an engineer at IBM.   Key Takeaways [:46] Sarita introduces Mallun Yen and Norre Krall, two of the ChIPs organization founders. [1:34] Katherine and Sarita take a few minutes to highlight some special aspect of both of their guests. [5:04] How did Noreen and Mallun become friends and how did this friendship turn into ChIPs? [9:25] Katherine asks Mallun and Noreen what concrete steps can be taken to mitigate the apparent in difficulty women seem to have shifting from friendship to business relationships with other women. [16:51] Is there a mindset shift required for women to receive a business pitch from other women? [18:31] In closing, Sarita asks what Mallun and Noreen\u2019s vision is for ChIPs going forward.   That\u2019s it for this episode of Heels of Justice; if you like the stories we\u2019re telling, please visit our website. You can join our mailing list, learn more about our guests, and see what we have planned for the future.   You can also follow us on Twitter, on Instagram, and on Facebook.   Disclaimer: The opinions you have heard are ours or our guest\u2019s alone. They\u2019re not the opinions of our employers, or our clients, or our bosses, and not our husbands, kids or pets, or anyone else\u2019s.   Mentioned in this episode (chronological order) ChIPs ChIPs Global Summit Cisco RPX Corp SaaStr \u201cHow friendships hold women back in their careers \u2014 and what they can do about it,\u201d by Mallun Yen Apple Inc. Sun Microsystems IBM   More about the Heels of Justice, Sarita Venkat, and Katherine Minarik Heels of Justice on the Web Heels of Justice on Twitter Heels of Justice on Instagram Heels of Justice on Facebook   Sarita Venkat on LinkedIn Katherine Minarik on LinkedIn Katherine Minarik on Twitter Katherine Minarik at cleverbridge   More about Mallun Yen Mallun Yen on the ChIPs website Mallun Yen on LinkedIn Mallun Yen on Twitter   More about Noreen Krall Noreen Krall on the ChIPs website Noreen Krall on Twitter ","author_name":"Heels of Justice","author_url":"http:\/\/www.heelsofjustice.com","html":"