{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Jacob Chase (writer\/director) on Insidious, Fear, and Why It Never Gets Easier","description":"Jacob Chase made his first short film with friends and no money. Nine years later, he was handed the keys to one of horror\u2019s biggest franchises. Jacob also directed Come Play, four episodes of Peacock\u2019s The Girl in the Woods, and is now in prep for Sleepover with Universal and Blumhouse Atomic Monster. And while he's done a ton of great press for Insidious: Out of the Further, he hasn\u2019t talked about much the decade before it, which is the part you know I love. The TV pilot that collapsed days before shooting, the student loan debt that shaped every creative choice he made in his twenties, the Doritos Super Bowl commercial that won him just enough money to breathe again. In this conversation, Carolina and her pal Jacob go past the franchise talking points. We explore: Going from a four-minute short film called Larry to a phone call from Amblin  The fear of repeating his own parents\u2019 patterns while directing a film about generational trauma How becoming a father reshaped what scares him. Jacob also tells the story of pitching Insidious the way he first told it to Carolina over brunch, before any of it was real. Can't wait to hear what you take away!  xx CG ","author_name":"Angle on Producers with Carolina Groppa","author_url":"http:\/\/www.angleonproducers.com","html":"