{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"The Creation Dilemma Backfires on Mormonism?","description":"Does Hayden Carroll\u2019s \u201cCreation Dilemma\u201d successfully challenge traditional Christianity, or does the argument create an even bigger problem for Mormonism? In this episode of FreeThinking Ministries, Josh Klein and Tim Stratton are joined by Taylor from &amp;nbsp;@thoughtfultheology&amp;nbsp; to examine the Creation Dilemma, Hayden Carroll\u2019s (&amp;nbsp;@LetsTalk-HaydenCarroll&amp;nbsp;) philosophical argument concerning God\u2019s foreknowledge, creation, human freedom, hell, and divine goodness. First, we take Hayden\u2019s argument seriously and ask whether Christians can answer the challenge. Does God\u2019s knowledge that someone will reject Him make creating that person immoral? Do libertarian freedom, Molinism, soul-building, and competing goods provide a meaningful response? Then the conversation turns to LDS theology itself. If human beings existed premortally, if Heavenly Father operates according to eternal law, and if some ultimately experience outer darkness, does the Creation Dilemma create a parallel problem for Mormonism? And does premortal consent solve the problem\u2014or simply move it somewhere else? This isn\u2019t about dunking on Hayden. We appreciate his willingness to engage difficult philosophical and theological questions, and our goal is to reason carefully through the argument and follow it wherever it leads. FreeThinking Ministries seeks to help people reason together by applying logic and sound theology to all aspects of life. \u27a1\ufe0f RESOURCES MENTIONED \u2b05\ufe0f Previous FTM discussion with Hayden Carroll on the Creation Dilemma: https:\/\/youtu.be\/E0h5JyfKTLQ Tim Stratton\u2019s article on the Creation Dilemma:  https:\/\/www.freethinkingministries.com\/post\/hayden-carroll-s-creation-dilemma-a-strong-argument-that-ultimately-fails Josh &amp;amp; Tim\u2019s conversation with Hayden on Calvinism: https:\/\/youtu.be\/wA8QbVhGyNA?si=3G_aJ9at1IzEEXIC Taylor\u2019s video on Mormonism and the Problem of Evil: https:\/\/youtu.be\/Orusaffhd4I?si=oC-9yDYjH1R4kTmQ \u27a1\ufe0f CHAPTERS \u2b05\ufe0f 00:00 The Creation Dilemma: Hayden Carroll\u2019s Argument 15:12 Does Foreknowledge Make Creation Immoral? 21:42 Soul-Building, Freedom &amp;amp; Reasons God Might Create 30:30 Is God \u201cBound\u201d? Feasibility &amp;amp; Eternal Law 45:38 Consent Under Duress &amp;amp; the Problem of Outer Darkness 43:44 Does the Creation Dilemma Backfire on Mormonism? 59:24 Judas, Sons of Perdition &amp;amp; Closing Thoughts \u27a1\ufe0f SUPPORT FREETHINKING MINISTRIES \u2b05\ufe0f Donate: https:\/\/freethinkingministries.com\/donate Join the conversation:&amp;nbsp;https:\/\/freethinkingministries.com\/contact \u27a1\ufe0f SOCIALS \u2b05\ufe0f Website: https:\/\/freethinkingministries.com Facebook: https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/FreeThinkInc Instagram: https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/freethinkinc X: https:\/\/x.com\/freethinkmin TikTok: https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@freethinkinc #Mormonism #LDS #ChristianApologetics #Theology #FreeThinking ","author_name":"The Freethinking Podcasts","author_url":"http:\/\/freethinkingministries.com\/","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/43097333\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/item\/43097333"}