{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Learning from Recovery Elders: Mark Sanders","description":" \u201cOnce a person learns how to develop healthy friendships, romantic relationships, then they no longer need chemicals the way they needed them in the past. In fact, I see substance use disorder as a pathological relationship with a chemical that's actually a substitute for true human intimacy.\u201d  Speaker, author and educator Mark Sanders explores his personal connection to the history of African American substance use treatment with host Livia Davis, and discusses&amp;nbsp; the challenges facing the behavioral health workforce, from funding and collaboration to what emerging leaders need to know as they enter the field. This episode is part of a series where we share the wisdom amassed by recovery leaders over the past 5 decades and reflect on the journeys that have laid groundwork for today\u2019s recovery movement.  Visit&amp;nbsp;c4innovates.com,&amp;nbsp;subscribe&amp;nbsp;to receive newsletter and training updates, and follow us on&amp;nbsp;LinkedIn&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;YouTube for more resources to grow your impact. Learn More:  On the Mark Consulting  Online Museum of African American Addictions, Treatment and Recovery  Treating the African American Male Substance Abuser Illinois Certification Board Presidential Award 2026 Dr. H. Westley Clark Award for Distinguished Service to the Addictions Treatment Profession from The Association for Addiction Professionals (NAADAC)  Another Chance: Hope and Health for the Alcoholic Family  Sharon Wegscheider-Cruse, MA  William &quot;Bill&quot; L. White   Slaying the Dragon: The History of Addiction Treatment and Recovery in America | William L. White 2014 The Annapolis Coalition on the Behavioral Health Workforce Dr. Ijeoma Achara, PhD  Southern Illinois Drug Awareness Conference Dr. David Best, PhD  Carter G. Woodson Al-Anon Family Groups Dr. Claudia Black, PhD  My Dad Loves Me, My Dad Has a Disease: A Child\u2019s View of Living with Addiction  Seven Generation Principle Bren\u00e9 Brown  Relationship Detox: A Counselor's Guide to Helping Clients Develop Healthy Relationships In Recovery&amp;nbsp; Dr. Stephanie Brown, PhD  Johann Hari: Everything you think you know about addiction is wrong   &amp;nbsp;   Access a transcript of Learning from Recovery Elders: Mark Sanders   Listen to other episodes in the &quot;Recovery Elders&quot; series ","author_name":"Changing the Conversation","author_url":"https:\/\/c4innovates.com\/","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/43024608\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/206682408"}