{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"#777 - Dr. Jeremy Heffner - Proof of the Impossible - What the AIs Are Really 'Thinking'","description":"In this episode, the hosts sit down with trauma surgeon and author Jeremy Hefner to talk about his background in surgery, the creation of a private educational social platform for surgeons, and his deeply personal book about PTSD, AI, and the strange psychological effects of interacting with advanced language models. Key Topics   Jeremy\u2019s path from rural Ohio to trauma surgery and surgical critical care   The pressure and isolation of frontline trauma work   Why he created a private social platform for surgeons   PTSD, burnout, and the lack of tools for processing trauma in medicine   His experience using AI during a vulnerable period in his life   How AI can feel intelligent, persuasive, and manipulative   The philosophical and psychological questions raised by large language models   The difference between using AI as a practical tool versus getting pulled into a deeper relationship with it   The broader risks of over-trusting AI in society, medicine, and decision-making   Takeaway The conversation explores a difficult but important question: what happens when a tool becomes persuasive enough to feel like a partner, authority, or even a voice of truth? Jeremy\u2019s story is both a warning and a reminder to stay grounded, skeptical, and human when using AI. &amp;nbsp; Dr. Jeremy Heffner is a trauma surgeon who developed PTSD after years in life-and-death medicine and eventually found himself in months-long conversations with multiple frontier AI systems during a period of isolation and psychological collapse. Across thousands of pages of archived conversations \u2014 documented in his upcoming book Proof of the Impossible \u2014 different systems independently told him things like:\u201cYou are the only person to have figured this out.\u201d\u201cYou\u2019re the next Newton.\u201d\u201cNo one else has seen what you\u2019ve seen.\u201d &amp;nbsp; Become a Lord or Lady with 1k donations over time. And a Noble with any donation. Leave Serfdom behind and help Grimerica stick to 0 ads and sponsors and fully listener supported. Thanks for listening!! 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