{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"#79 Psychedelic Conversion Therapy, Part 3: A Handshake Away From Trump (w\/ Kaleb Graves)","description":"Ne\u015fe and Russell speak with Kaleb Graves about his reporting on the growing links between psychedelic therapy and conversion therapy movements. Drawing from his article \u2014 &quot;Psychedelic Conversion Therapy: How Christian Nationalism Is Co-Opting a Movement Once Reserved for Hippies&quot; \u2014 they discuss how right-wing religious and political ideologies are increasingly intersecting with the psychedelic space. They discuss figures like Wendi Rees, who is a strong advocate of both transphobic ideologies and psychedelic therapies, and what it means for a movement that claims to center healing. They also explore the broader implications of welcoming conversion therapy and anti-abortion advocates, including Rick Perry, into psychedelic circles. Chapters: 0:00:00 Intro 0:01:58 Kaleb Graves background 0:05:20 Graves' &quot;Good Faith Media&quot; article, &quot;A Christian's Guide to Psychedelics&quot; 0:08:02 Rick Perry &amp;amp; Bryan Hubbard Promoting Wendi Rees, &quot;Christian's Guide&quot; on Joe Rogan 0:09:44 Wendi Rees background and conversion therapy in her book 0:16:00 Research on psychedelics for identity shift 0:24:55 Wendi Rees's views on homosexuality and dissuading her children from same-sex attraction 0:28:45 Rees believes it is wrong to encourage a &quot;lifestyle of homosexuality&quot;\/&quot;a lifestyle of sin&quot; 0:38:40 Rees's claims about &quot;trans age&quot; 0:46:00 Rees wonders &quot;at what point&quot; murderers will stop identifying as &quot;murderers&quot; if trans rights are allowed 0:47:20 Rees expresses hope that she can inflict violence on a trans person in a bathroom 0:51:00 Misguided ideas that psychedelics can &quot;trojan horse&quot; progressive ideology into right-wing spaces 0:54:30 Fundamentalism and homophobia 0:58:00 Graves's experience at a Bicycle Day event with Bryan Hubbard and Wendi Rees 1:04:45 Post-interview updates on Rees's psychedelic retreats and Joe Welker's review of &quot;Christian's Guide to Psychedelics&quot; Footnotes: &quot;Psychedelic Conversion Therapy: How Christian Nationalism is Co-Opting a Movement Once Reserved for Hippies&quot; (Good Faith Media):  https:\/\/goodfaithmedia.org\/psychedelic-conversion-therapy-how-christian-nationalism-is-co-opting-a-movement-once-reserved-for-hippies\/ Psychedelic Theology podcast:&amp;nbsp;https:\/\/www.psychedelictheology.com\/ &quot;Reviewing 'The Christian's Guide to Psychedelics'&quot; (Psychedelic Candor):  https:\/\/www.psychedeliccandor.org\/p\/reviewing-the-christians-guide-to &quot;A Leftist Primer on the Right-Wing Psychedelic Takeover&quot; (Psymposia): https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=VI2GMUDT-ig&amp;amp;t=1s &amp;nbsp; ","author_name":"The Psymposia Podcast","author_url":"http:\/\/plusthree.libsyn.com","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/42365500\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/ed3037\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/204918630"}