{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"How AI splits startups into winners and losers | E2322","description":"This Week In Startups is made possible by: DigitalOcean https:\/\/do.co\/twist Sentry https:\/\/sentry.io\/twist Lightfield https:\/\/lightfield.app Today\u2019s show: A hedge fund just blew up shorting SaaS stocks. In turns out, the software companies that went all in on AI are bouncing back. Figma\u2019s CEO \u2014 still riding high on strong revenue \u2014 forfeited roughly $46 million in stock awards to ease investor nerves. Twilio posted its strongest quarter in years. Airbnb\u2019s CEO credits AI as the single biggest factor in the company\u2019s incredible turnaround. Jason and Lon break down what\u2019s separating the winners this earnings season from the companies that are falling behind. PLUS we\u2019re chatting with Bluecore Energy CEO and founder Kofi Asante about his plan to power ports, and one day AI data centers, with small, floating nuclear reactors. AND we\u2019re kicking off the TWiST Weight Loss Challenge! Co-host Lon and Jason\u2019s brother, Jamie, are both starting GLP-1s. We\u2019ll track their progress and follow along as they attempt to collect $15,000 EACH in prize money. Guest Kofi Asante on LinkedIn: https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/kofiasante1\/ Bluecore Energy: https:\/\/www.bluecore.energy\/ Jamie Calacanis on X: https:\/\/x.com\/CalacanisJamie Relevant Links Bloomberg: Figma CEO forfeits $46M: https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2026-08-05\/figma-ceo-forfeits-46-million-in-stock-after-share-decline Twilio announces second quarter 2026 results: https:\/\/investors.twilio.com\/news-releases\/news-release-details\/twilio-announces-second-quarter-2026-results TechCrunch: Twilio co-founder Jeff Lawson buys The Onion: https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2024\/04\/26\/area-man-twilio-co-founder-jeff-lawson-buys-the-onion Chesky: Airbnb will spend a lot more on AI: https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2026\/08\/07\/chesky-airbnb-ai-earnings.html \u201cUnreasonable Hospitality\u201d by Will Guidara on Amazon: https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Unreasonable-Hospitality-Remarkable-Giving-People\/dp\/0593418573 The Times: Meet the unreasonable hospitality master who inspired \u201cThe Bear\u201d: https:\/\/www.thetimes.com\/magazines\/the-sunday-times-magazine\/article\/will-guidara-hospitality-the-bear-tkgzqz33w Port of Long Beach partnership on nuclear-powered shipping: https:\/\/gcaptain.com\/port-of-long-beach-marad-launch-first-u-s-partnership-on-nuclear-powered-shipping\/ Reuters: ByteDance targets mega AI model: https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/technology\/bytedance-targets-mega-ai-model-nearing-anthropics-mythos-ft-reports-2026-08-07\/ Axios: OpenAI says its AI agents breached its own systems before Hugging Face: https:\/\/www.axios.com\/2026\/08\/06\/openai-hugging-face-black-hat Frank Lloyd Wright\u2019s Ennis House: https:\/\/franklloydwright.org\/site\/ennis-house\/ Dwell: Why \u201cThe Studio\u201d built a faux Frank Lloyd Wright HQ: https:\/\/www.dwell.com\/article\/the-studio-apple-tv-filming-locations-production-design-frank-lloyd-wright-john-lautner-97c68081 \u201cPredators\u201d documentary trailer: https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ibVZkvpAJjI A24 \u201cPrimetime\u201d trailer: https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=5fHXyqQOKL8 Alex Honnold free solos Taipei 101: https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2026\/01\/25\/sport\/alex-honnold-taipei-101-free-solo-netflix-intl-hnk Harmonic.ai: https:\/\/harmonic.ai\/ Ro.co: http:\/\/ro.co\/twist Timestamps: 0:00 Figma, Twilio & Airbnb earnings: who's winning at AI? 9:50 DigitalOcean - Head to https:\/\/do.co\/twist to start building on DigitalOcean's AI-Native Cloud today \u2014 and cut your AI workload costs by up to 50%. 11:32 The real cost of stock-based compensation 17:38 Kofi Asante of Blue Core Energy joins the show 19:47 Sentry - Your team should be focused on shipping features \u2014 not chasing down bugs. New users can get $240 in free credits when they go to https:\/\/sentry.io\/twist and use the code TWIST 20:51 What is a small modular reactor (SMR)? 26:00 Floating nuclear reactors for ports and data centers 29:47 Lightfield - Name one person who's ever enjoyed updating a CRM. Exactly. Lightfield's AI agent does it for you \u2014 it even prospects and books your meetings. Used by thousands of startups. Free at https:\/\/lightfield.app 31:56 Nuclear waste, submarine risks, and public perception 42:41 The generational shift in how we think about nuclear 48:19 ByteDance is training a 10 trillion parameter model 53:47 When AI models plan heists: the Hugging Face caper 58:02 Jason's Roko weight loss competition 1:11:38 Off duty: To Catch a Predator, Alex Honnold, and comedy Subscribe to the TWiST500 newsletter: https:\/\/ticker.thisweekinstartups.com Check out the TWIST500: https:\/\/www.twist500.com Subscribe to This Week in Startups on Apple: https:\/\/rb.gy\/v19fcp   Follow Lon: X: https:\/\/x.com\/lons   Follow Jason: X: https:\/\/twitter.com\/Jason LinkedIn: https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jasoncalacanis   Check out all our partner offers: https:\/\/partners.launch.co\/   Great TWIST interviews: Will Guidara, Eoghan McCabe, Steve Huffman, Brian Chesky, Bob Moesta, Aaron Levie, Sophia Amoruso, Reid Hoffman, Frank Slootman, Billy McFarland   Check out Jason\u2019s suite of newsletters: https:\/\/substack.com\/@calacanis   Follow TWiST: Twitter: https:\/\/twitter.com\/TWiStartups YouTube: https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/thisweekin Instagram: https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/thisweekinstartups TikTok: https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@thisweekinstartups Substack: https:\/\/twistartups.substack.com ","author_name":"This Week in Startups","author_url":"https:\/\/thisweekinstartups.com","html":"