{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"#230- South32 Hermosa: Pat Risner","description":" &amp;nbsp;     From a Coal Mine Summer Job to Leading America's Next Critical Minerals Project   Pat Risner had no mining background, no family in the industry, and no plan to end up here. One summer underground changed everything. Now, as President of South32 Hermosa, he's building one of the most important zinc and manganese projects in the country \u2014 from the ground up.   In this episode, Pat joins Mining Minds to share his journey from Oklahoma to BHP's global operations, the leadership lessons he learned the hard way, why culture came before anything else at Hermosa, and how a smaller footprint, less water, and deep tribal partnership are redefining what a modern mine looks like.   \ud83c\udfa7  New episode of Mining Minds \u2014 out now.   #MiningMinds #Hermosa #South32 #CriticalMinerals #Zinc #Manganese #MiningIndustry #Leadership #SafetyFirst #Sustainability #SupplyChain #Podcast      &amp;nbsp;\ud83c\udfa7  Full episode of Mining Minds is out now.   Episode Sponsors:  \u00b7&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Safety First Training and Consultin   \u00b7&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Heavy Metal Equipment &amp;amp; Rentals  \u00b7&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Motor Mission Machine and Radiator     #MiningMinds #Hermosa #South32 #CriticalMinerals #Zinc #Manganese #MiningIndustry #Leadership #SafetyFirst #Sustainability #SupplyChain #ArizonaMining    &amp;nbsp;   Chapters:&amp;nbsp;    1.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; The &quot;getting culture right&quot; moment (cold open hook)  \u2014 &quot;The minute I went underground, I was kinda captivated, and the one thing I didn't wanna screw up here was to try to get the culture right... that's an opportunity we should not squander here.&quot;  0:00 \u2013 0:12  2.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; First-generation miner origin story  \u2014 &quot;There's no mining in my family... I really didn't get exposed to it until college, and knew nothing. I went into it completely blind.&quot; Great &quot;underdog to president&quot; narrative hook.  6:06 \u2013 6:17  3.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; On tribal engagement \/ social license (strong ESG angle)  \u2014 &quot;We started really early... engaging with up to 12 different tribes, build relationships, build trust... understand how we can modify and change the project.&quot;  15:20 \u2013 16:08  4.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Leadership without subject-matter expertise  \u2014 &quot;Leadership is not the same as being the one doing the work, and leadership is a different skill than the subject matter expertise that the people have doing the work.&quot; Excellent standalone leadership quote.  25:28 \u2013 25:47  5.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; On approachability and trust  \u2014 &quot;You just learn as much as you can about every individual personally, help them learn more about you and who you are, and then you can start building some trust.&quot;  29:35 \u2013 30:00  6.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; The safety &quot;guarantee&quot; philosophy (very quotable)  \u2014 &quot;We guarantee everyone goes home safe and well... 'guarantee' is a bit provocative in the mining industry.&quot;  40:57 \u2013 41:17  7.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Small footprint stat (great infographic\/quote card)  \u2014 &quot;70 years of mining, we'll only disturb 750 acres... the big open pit mines are 10, 20, even as big as 40,000 acres.&quot;  46:55 \u2013 47:30  8.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 90% less water stat  \u2014 &quot;We'll use 90% less water... your typical base metal mines will use between 60 to 20 gallons of water for every pound of metal \u2014 we'll use 0.5.&quot;  47:25 \u2013 47:50  9.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; National security \/ critical minerals angle (strong for policy-minded LinkedIn audience)  \u2014 &quot;97 plus percent of the battery grade manganese in the world comes from China... this is an opportunity to really reduce national security risk.&quot;  49:35 \u2013 49:55  10.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Zinc supply gap stat  \u2014 &quot;We see a four-million-ton gap between zinc supply and demand by the early 2030s. To put that into context, you'd have to develop three Hermosa\u2019s every year.&quot;  49:55 \u2013 50:20  ","author_name":"Mining Minds","author_url":"https:\/\/www.miningmindsllc.com\/","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/42258640\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/204589655"}