{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"728: The Political Divide over Matthew 25 plus Tish Harrison Warren","description":"Two members of Congress, one Republican and one Democrat, had a meeting recently where they fundamentally disagreed about the meaning of the sheep and the goats in Matthew 25. Their disagreement has now spilled into the media. Why has this chapter of the Bible become the new dividing line between Christians in the public square? Kaityn interviews Tish Harrison Warren about her new book about Christian resilience and what disillusioned believers can learn from the desert mothers and fathers. And fifty years ago, the media declared 1976 the \u201cYear of the Evangelicals.\u201d The Holy Post crew discusses one historian\u2019s look back at that year and debates whether it was really the turning point for American evangelicalism. &amp;nbsp; Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode:  https:\/\/holypost.substack.com\/p\/728-the-political-divide-over-matthew &amp;nbsp; 0:00 - Show Starts 1:50 - Theme Song 4:20 - Sponsor - Brooklyn Bedding - Use code HOLYPOST for 30% off sitewide for a great night\u2019s sleep! Go to https:\/\/www.brooklynbedding.com\/HOLYPOST 5:23 - Sponsor - Our Place - Go to https:\/\/www.fromourplace.com and use code CURIOUSLY to get 10% off site wide on beautiful cookware! 6:23 - America 250 Celebration 12:44 - The Turning Point of Evangelicalism 28:04&amp;nbsp; - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Get the AG1 $76 Welcome Pack for free when you order from https:\/\/www.drinkag1.com\/HOLYPOST 29:34 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https:\/\/www.betterhelp.com\/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month! 30:37 - Does Matthew 25 Apply to Nations? 46:20 - Interview 49:42 - Weariness 56:30 - Desert Mothers and Fathers 1:04:00 - What is Acedia? 1:19:13 - Become All Flame 1:29:17 - End Credits &amp;nbsp; Links Mentioned in News Segment: Growing Divide Over Matthew 25:  https:\/\/religionnews.com\/2026\/07\/01\/in-congress-a-growing-divide-over-matthew-25\/?utm_medium=social &amp;nbsp; Christianity Today on the Turning Point for Evangelicalism:  https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/2026\/06\/1976-was-a-turning-point-for-evangelicalism-george-marsden-history\/?utm_source=flipboard&amp;amp;utm_content=topic\/christianity &amp;nbsp; Other Resources: What Grows in Weary Lands: On Christian Resilience by Tish Harrison Warren: https:\/\/a.co\/d\/0bJc9P34 &amp;nbsp; Holy Post website: https:\/\/www.holypost.com\/ &amp;nbsp; Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com\/plus &amp;nbsp; Holy Post Patreon: https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/holypost &amp;nbsp; Holy Post Merch Store: https:\/\/www.holypost.com\/shop &amp;nbsp; The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. &amp;nbsp; ","author_name":"The Holy Post","author_url":"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/holypost","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/41997050\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/item\/41997050"}