{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"#332: Most People Are Using AI Wrong, Are you?","description":"Episode Summary Most people believe they know how to use AI\u2014but are they simply treating ChatGPT like a replacement for Google? In this episode of The EdTech Podcast, Philippa Wraithmell speaks with Joshua, Co-founder and CEO of Mindstone, about what genuine AI competency looks like and why successful AI transformation depends far more on people, behaviour and organisational culture than technology. Joshua shares his journey from launching his first company as a teenager to co-founding SuperAwesome, the child-safety technology company later acquired by Epic Games. He explains how this experience shaped his thinking about digital safeguarding, parental responsibility and the need to help children engage with technology gradually, rather than attempting to protect them through blanket bans. The conversation explores why simply inserting AI into existing tasks rarely delivers meaningful value. Joshua argues that the real opportunity lies in changing how we approach work: asking AI to question us, challenge our assumptions, identify blind spots and support our thinking rather than outsourcing it. They also examine the widening AI skills divide. As experienced users build years of personal context, workflows and AI agents, those who delay may find themselves increasingly disadvantaged. This has major implications for workplaces, schools and universities\u2014particularly when many institutions still respond to AI through prohibition rather than education. From leadership and workforce transformation to safeguarding, sustainability misconceptions and the future of employment, this episode asks an important question: are we preparing people to use AI well, or simply giving them access to the tools?  Key Topics What genuine AI competency looks like Why most people are using generative AI incorrectly Using AI to enhance rather than replace human thinking Why AI transformation is a people and behaviour-change challenge The responsibility of senior leaders during AI adoption The growing inequality between experienced and inexperienced AI users Why banning AI in schools can encourage secretive and inappropriate use Building safer, age-appropriate pathways into AI and social media The role of parents, governments and technology companies in safeguarding Misconceptions surrounding AI\u2019s environmental impact How AI agents are changing productivity and cognitive workload Preparing people for disruption across employment and education Chapters 00:00 \u2013 Welcome and Introduction to Joshua Joshua introduces Mindstone and its work helping non-technical teams use generative AI more effectively. 01:04 \u2013 Building a Business at Sixteen From creating websites for family connections to managing a team of students building technology for private banks. 02:08 \u2013 Early Start-up Lessons Joshua reflects on a failed start-up, turning down investment and the lessons that led to his next venture. 03:17 \u2013 Building SuperAwesome and Protecting Children Online How SuperAwesome developed advertising, privacy and verified parental-consent technology for global children\u2019s brands. 04:47 \u2013 Safeguarding, Regulation and Parental Responsibility Why Joshua believes governments must avoid removing parental agency when introducing online-safety regulation. 06:46 \u2013 Education, Curiosity and Challenging Authority Joshua discusses his school experiences, constant questioning and learning across six different school models. 10:04 \u2013 Why Joshua Founded Mindstone The transition from Epic Games into education, learning science and the future of workforce skills. 13:07 \u2013 When Skills Expire Before Degrees Are Completed Why the declining half-life of workplace skills raises fundamental questions about traditional education. 14:04 \u2013 ChatGPT Changes the Direction of Mindstone How generative AI transformed both the learning process and the skills likely to matter in the future. 15:28 \u2013 Why Most People Do Not Know How to Use AI Joshua explains why frequent ChatGPT use does not necessarily equal AI competency. 17:24 \u2013 ChatGPT Is Not a Search Engine Why treating AI as a Google replacement represents one of its least valuable applications. 18:17 \u2013 AI, Water and Energy Misconceptions A discussion about environmental claims, data centres and the importance of understanding evidence and scale. 20:45 \u2013 Stop Asking AI for Answers Joshua shares a simple technique: ask AI to question you, uncover blind spots and strengthen your thinking. 22:09 \u2013 Treating AI as a Conversation Why users should refine, challenge and continue the interaction rather than abandoning AI after one poor response. 24:10 \u2013 AI as a Digital Chief of Staff How accumulated context allows AI to understand preferences, decisions and working patterns more effectively. 25:04 \u2013 The Emerging AI Inequality Gap Why users who have spent years building AI systems and context may gain a compounding advantage. 26:54 \u2013 Why School AI Bans Are Failing How prohibition can drive AI use underground and encourage learners to outsource rather than demonstrate their thinking. 27:23 \u2013 Making AI the Baseline for Learning Why students should be expected to show how they improved upon AI-generated work rather than pretend the technology does not exist. 30:47 \u2013 AI Transformation Begins with Leadership Why executive teams must understand and use AI before asking the rest of an organisation to change. 33:11 \u2013 AI Is a People Problem The case for moving AI transformation from the chief technology officer to the chief people officer. 33:40 \u2013 Why Online Training Alone Does Not Change Behaviour How live demonstrations, personalised learning and practical workplace applications support meaningful adoption. 36:19 \u2013 Champions, Laggards and Organisational Change The role of internal champions, visible success stories and sustained momentum. 38:05 \u2013 Reclaiming Time for Meaningful Work How AI can reduce administrative burden and allow people to focus on the work they value most. 39:12 \u2013 The Safeguarding Knife Edge Joshua considers how children can gradually gain independence while parents retain appropriate visibility and support. 42:38 \u2013 The Problem with Digital Cliffs Why completely restricting children until a set age may leave them unprepared for the realities of online life. 44:38 \u2013 Technology Cannot Replace Parenting Lessons from SuperAwesome about parental consent, responsibility and the limitations of technical safeguards. 47:44 \u2013 Jobs, Robotics and the Next Decade Joshua shares an optimistic but honest view of significant employment disruption and rapid technological progress. 49:15 \u2013 AI Agents and \u2018Brain Fry\u2019 Why delegating routine work to AI can leave humans completing only the most cognitively demanding tasks. 50:48 \u2013 Becoming More Human in an AI World The opportunity to rethink work, protect time and make greater space for creativity, relationships and life beyond productivity. Mindstone Want to boost productivity by training your non-technical staff to use AI? Sign up for Mindstone\u2019s AI Competency Programme, or join one of the world\u2019s largest practical AI communities, with in-person events taking place every month around the world. AI Competency Programme: mindstone.com\/enterprise Community and Events: community.mindstone.com\/events ","author_name":"The Edtech Podcast","author_url":"https:\/\/theedtechpodcast.com\/","html":"