{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"725: The Cage Match for America\u2019s Story plus Nijay Gupta","description":"Last year, the President celebrated his birthday with a military parade. This year, he hosted a UFC cage match on the South Lawn of the White House. It\u2019s easy to compare it to the gladiator games honoring the Roman emperor, but Phil asks whether it\u2019s a sign that America would rather emulate pre-Christian Roman values than biblical ones. Americans can no longer agree on how to teach American history, so we\u2019re not teaching it much at all. Is it possible to recover a shared national story? Nijay Gupta is back to discuss his latest book, \u201cPaul for the World,\u201d and why the Apostle would not recognize a modern Christianity that\u2019s focused on heaven rather than earth. Also this week\u2014the science behind dad jokes. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode:  https:\/\/holypost.substack.com\/p\/725-the-cage-match-for-americas-story Bonus Interview:  https:\/\/holypost.substack.com\/p\/should-the-church-preserve-ethnic 0:00 - Show Starts 3:12 - Theme Song 3:35 -&amp;nbsp; Sponsor - PolicyGenius - Secure your family\u2019s tomorrow so you have peace of mind today. Go to https:\/\/www.policygenius.com\/HOLYPOST to find the right life insurance for you 4:38 - Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at https:\/\/www.rocketmoney.com\/HOLYPOST 5:38 - Science Supports Dad Jokes 14:49 - UFC Fight at the White House 30:45 - Sponsor - Feeding America - Feeding America, led by neighbors! Give now to end hunger at https:\/\/www.feedingamerica.org 31:15 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https:\/\/www.betterhelp.com\/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month! 32:17 - \u201cAmerican Dream\u201d Finding Cuts 35:02 - What Story is America Telling? 52:16 - Interview 57:46 - Is Social Justice Christian? 1:06:20 - Epicureans and Stoics 1:14:33 - Bonhauffer and the Incarnate Church 1:28:15 - End Credits &amp;nbsp; Links Mentioned in News Segment: Sciences Supports Dad Jokes:  https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wellness\/2026\/06\/15\/science-suggests-cringe-worthy-dad-jokes-may-serve-an-actual-purpose\/ &amp;nbsp; No Common American Narrative:  https:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/magazine\/2026\/07\/american-history-common-narrative\/687301\/ &amp;nbsp; Other Resources: Paul for the World: A Grounded Vision for Finding Meaning in This Life\u2014Not Just the Next (What Paul\u2019s Letters Say about Work, Friendship, Money, Wellness, Justice, and More) by Nijay Gupta: https:\/\/amzn.to\/3RZR8ON &amp;nbsp; Holy Post website: https:\/\/www.holypost.com\/ &amp;nbsp; Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com\/plus &amp;nbsp; Holy Post Patreon: https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/holypost &amp;nbsp; Holy Post Merch Store: https:\/\/www.holypost.com\/shop &amp;nbsp; The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. &amp;nbsp; ","author_name":"The Holy Post","author_url":"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/holypost","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/41671975\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/item\/41671975"}