{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Annabel Smith: Beer taster, women-in-beer pioneer, and swimmer","description":"In this throwback episode, we\u2019re catching up with someone from season two of Beer with Nat who I recorded with back in May 2019.  Today\u2019s guest is Annabel Smith, Beer Sommelier and founder of the training, consultancy, and events business, BeerBelle. We\u2019ll start by hearing what Annabel has been up to over the past 7 years, then we\u2019ll revisit our original conversation.  You\u2019ll hear about Annabel\u2019s journey from pub landlady to self-described professional beer taster. She also shares her passion for cask beer, her many firsts as a woman in beer, and her research into why so few women in the UK drink beer (and what to do about it!)   What stuck with me from this conversation: On getting more women into beer: \u201cI say this all the time. We don\u2019t need a \u2018beer for women'. We\u2019ve got beer.\u201d On working in a pub: \u201cWorking in a pub teaches you to be a cook, a cleaner, an accountant. You learn crowd control. You learn to be an agony aunt. You have got to have so many hats and that\u2019s what I absolutely loved about being in the pub industry.\u201d On how to live: \u201cI think we should all be a bit more dog.\u201d (You\u2019ve got to listen to Annabel\u2019s update! \ud83d\ude04)   Links & things: Annabel\u2019s business: BeerBelle Annabel\u2019s women and beer interest group: DeaLatis The Gender Pint Gap (2018) The Beer Agender (2019) The Gender Pint Gap: Revisited (2024) Other organisations Annabel works with and teaches for: WSET (via Northern Wine School in Manchester) Guild of Beer Sommeliers Cask Marque   Recording info: May 2019 in Norwich + May 2026 voice note   Subscribe | Follow on Instagram | Email ","author_name":"Cheers with Nat","author_url":"https:\/\/cheerswithnat.substack.com\/","html":"