{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"20VC: Mercor CEO on Why Application Layer Companies Have No Defensibility, The Model is the Product | Token Spend Will Exceed Headcount Spend in 5 Years | The True Cost of Hiring AI Researchers in the Valley Today with Brendan Foody","description":"Brendan Foody is the Founder and CEO @ Mercor, one of the leading data providers to the largest labs on the planet including OpenAI. In the last two years, Brendan has scaled the company to $1.5BN in ARR and a valuation of $10BN.&amp;nbsp; AGENDA:&amp;nbsp; True or False:   Mercor lost Meta and OpenAI as a customer with the hack?   Mercor has been poaching competitor talent, paying them millions?&amp;nbsp;   Mercor revenue is not real revenue and is only GMV?   12:56 Would Brendan sell Mercor for $30 billion?&amp;nbsp; 14:23 Why everyone is wrong that AI will lead to labor displacement? 15:59 We will create many new jobs that do not exist with AI.&amp;nbsp; 16:59 Why training agents will be a massive labor category that does not exist today&amp;nbsp; 19:51 Will we see the data provider market unbundle and specialize into verticals?&amp;nbsp; 22:24 Is the stated revenue really revenue or is it really GMV?&amp;nbsp; 27:55 How a 1 million ARR company secured one of the best investors in the world with a helicopter ride&amp;nbsp; 29:41 How Felicis secured the deal of the decade with a race track and a set of Ferraris&amp;nbsp; 32:59 Which investment round felt like the highest price to grow into?&amp;nbsp; 34:49 Why will value accrue to the infrastructure layer, not the application layer, in the next 12 months?&amp;nbsp; 35:46 Why the model is the product and why application layer companies should be scared as a result&amp;nbsp; 37:22 Why network effects will be the determinant of value creation&amp;nbsp; 38:46 Why the forward-deployed motion, not the GTM motion, will determine true value creation.&amp;nbsp; 41:59 Why token spend within organizations is going to continue to increase&amp;nbsp; 43:54 Why agent evaluation to commoditize the model layer will be a massive business for enterprises?&amp;nbsp; 51:13 Why we should have increased capital gains tax&amp;nbsp; 01:01:31 How to compete with $20 million a year from Meta?&amp;nbsp; 01:08:49 Will Mercor go public and when? &amp;nbsp; ","author_name":"The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch","author_url":"http:\/\/www.thetwentyminutevc.com\/","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/41484670\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/202462475"}