{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Matters Microbial #130: The Holobiont \u2014 Animals, Microbes, and Ecology","description":" Matters Microbial #130: The Holobiont \u2014 Animals, Microbes, and Ecology May 19, 2026  Today Dr. Kevin Kohl, Associate Professor of Biological Sciences at the University of Pittsburgh, joins the #QualityQuorum to discuss how he and his colleagues study the interplay between animals, their resident gut microbes, and the overarching concept of the holobiont. Host:&amp;nbsp;Mark O. Martin Guest:&amp;nbsp;Kevin Kohl Subscribe:&amp;nbsp;Apple Podcasts,&amp;nbsp;Spotify Become a&amp;nbsp;patron&amp;nbsp;of&amp;nbsp;Matters Microbial! Links for this episode  The&amp;nbsp;One Health Microbiome Center&amp;nbsp;at Pennsylvania State University. A very fine&amp;nbsp;essay&amp;nbsp;on the holobiont concept for non-microbiologists. A general introductory&amp;nbsp;overview&amp;nbsp;of the holobiont concept. The holobiont concept and the&amp;nbsp;coral symbiosis.&amp;nbsp; A partial&amp;nbsp;history&amp;nbsp;of the development of the holobiont concept. Dr. Casadevall suggests that&amp;nbsp;context&amp;nbsp;and thus outcomes describes the term \u201cpathogen,\u201d and a similar analysis applies to the holobiont. A very short&amp;nbsp;description&amp;nbsp;of the holobiont concept.&amp;nbsp; Another&amp;nbsp;overview&amp;nbsp;of the holobiont concept in general, coauthored by Dr. Kohl.&amp;nbsp; Some&amp;nbsp;basic rules&amp;nbsp;for thinking about the holobiont concept. A&amp;nbsp;video introduction&amp;nbsp;to the holobiont concept, by Dr. Seth Bordenstein. I highly recommend this essay by the science writer Carl Zimmer, \u201cThe Human Lake,\u201d to think of the connections between lake ecology and microbial interactions with humans. Another wonderful&amp;nbsp;article&amp;nbsp;recommended by Dr. Kohl, by Dr. Margaret McFall-Ngai and coauthors, detailing the impact microbes have on animals over evolution and development.&amp;nbsp; The&amp;nbsp;wood rat \u2013 creosote \u2013 microbiome&amp;nbsp;connection to the holobiont concept, discussed on this podcast (coauthored by Dr. Kohl). The fascinating work by Dr. Kohl and colleagues showing the relationship between&amp;nbsp;tadpole development and pond microbes&amp;nbsp;discussed in this podcast. &amp;nbsp;A&amp;nbsp;must read article&amp;nbsp;by Dr. Kohl and colleagues, \u201cThrough the microbial looking glass: our shifting understanding of the holobiont and microbes as mediators of organismal biology,\u201d illustrates the development and influence of the holobiont concept. Dr. Richard Prum\u2019s book, \u201cPerformance All the Way Down,\u201d was discussed during this podcast. There is also a&amp;nbsp;video&amp;nbsp;where Dr. Prum discusses the ideas in this book, describing gene regulation as a performance.&amp;nbsp; Dr. Kohl\u2019s&amp;nbsp;faculty website. Dr. Kohl\u2019s (very interesting)&amp;nbsp;research website.  Intro music is by Reber Clark Send your questions and comments to mattersmicrobial@gmail.com  ","author_name":"Immune","author_url":"http:\/\/microbe.tv\/immune","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/41355220\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/item\/41355220"}