{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"EP277: CISO as CFO, From Citi to Celery, It's All about the Cabbage","description":"Guest: Arvin Bansal, CISO, C&S Wholesale Grocers Topics: Most people do not associate grocery wholesale and retail with cutting edge technology and threat models. Can you produce the receipts for why this isn\u2019t a story of dry goods but rather a very meaty topic with beefy adversaries?  How are you as the CISO enabling C&S\u2019s journey into AI and LLM driven work? Securing AI is a bit harder than securing classic analytics tools, right? In addition to securely rolling out AI, how is your defense team using AI to secure C&S? Are you into the era of agentic triage and response?  What metrics for AI is your D&R lead surfacing up to you? You have AI in the business process that - if failed - will leave people hungry. How do you approach AI resilience?  How do you approach resilience in general? Is cloud part of your resilience strategy? You worked at Citigroup for a long time. What\u2019s it like having grocery margin budgets for security instead? How does your thinking change? Does this shift your build\/buy\/outsource for security?  If your IoT stack falls over, you\u2019ve got literal ice cream melting in a warehouse. How do you balance your investments in cyber risk with physical operational risk? Should I be scared of forklifts? Resources: EP275 Google Cloud Next 2026: The AI Earthquake, \u201cSOC-home\u201d Syndrome, and the Ragged Edge of Reality EP247 The Evolving CISO: From Security Cop to Cloud & AI Champion EP208 The Modern CISO: Balancing Risk, Innovation, and Business Strategy (And Where is Cloud?) EP212 Securing the Cloud at Scale: Modern Bank CISO on Metrics, Challenges, and SecOps ","author_name":"Cloud Security Podcast by Google","author_url":"https:\/\/cloud.withgoogle.com\/cloudsecurity\/podcast\/","html":"