{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"ERP135 - AI Assisted Coding","description":"Ashley Cooper on Lovable, Local-First AI Apps, and Safe Agent Workflows for MSPs The host interviews Ashley Cooper (COO at Cyber Drain, VP of Community at Rewst) about her use of Lovable and other AI coding tools to build small, local-first, deterministic apps and learn through prompting. Ashley describes receiving a Lovable contributor gift after ranking in the top 0.01% of users, her early failed attempt to rebuild community software, and her shift to rapid, browser-based prototypes like JSON-to-CSV converters, receipt\/expense and food trackers, and a webhook-driven PSA time-entry timer. She explains her workflow moving from Lovable scaffolding to GitHub\/VS Code with Copilot, plus experimenting with Bolt and tools like OpenClaw, emphasizing trust boundaries, least privilege, and treating agents like employees. They discuss prompt engineering using philosophical mental models, risks of unvetted \u201cvibe-coded\u201d SaaS, and advising MSPs to start with data readiness and education before deploying AI for clients. This episode is brought to you by Opsleader Pro. A place for MSP owners and managers to get the systems and tools they need to build a stable and growing MSP. Part group coaching, part peer group, everything you need to run a successful MSP. 00:00 Meet Ashley Cooper 01:17 Lovable Gift Surprise 03:01 Early Builds and Lessons 05:25 Hackathon One Shot Apps 09:34 Finding Ideas to Build 11:00 Viral AI Side Projects 14:09 Keeping or Killing Projects 18:22 Local First Automation Wins 19:51 Beyond Lovable Toolchain 24:03 OpenClaw Risks and Power 30:49 AI As Employee 31:18 Stress And Bias 32:02 Context Anxiety 34:52 Prompt Writing Workflow 37:23 Mental Model Prompts 41:44 Deep Instruction Sources 47:20 SaaS Apocalypse Debate 49:53 MSP AI Readiness 53:47 Education And Governance 56:30 Closing Thoughts ","author_name":"Evolved Radio","author_url":"https:\/\/www.evolvedmgmt.com","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/41231195\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/002757\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/201768305"}