{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Ep 8 \u2013 Elizabeth Townsend: Brewery owner, teacher, and travel lover","description":"Welcome back to Cheers with Nat \u2013 the podcast dedicated to cheering on women in drinks. Last week, you heard from Am\u00e9lie, the founder of the Women in Beer mentorship programme. This week, you\u2019re going to hear from one of the mentees! Today\u2019s guest is Elizabeth Townsend, co-owner of Kerroo Brewing Company. Elizabeth shares how she went from studying music at university to opening a brewery with her partner, taking us through her portfolio career and how it gave her the confidence to do what she does today. We also discuss how her role in the business is evolving, how she stays grounded outside of work, the life changing network she\u2019s grateful to be part of, and more. &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; What stuck with me from this conversation: On portfolio careers: \u201cI\u2019ve had quite a portfolio career. Some might say I haven\u2019t stuck at things for very long. But I like to think of it as just doing different jobs, I pick up different skills \u2013 it\u2019s made it possible to do what I do now.\u201d On working with her partner: \u201cWe have complementary skills that work together and mean that I can do all the logistics and the sales and the PR and that kinda thing, and he brews the beer and absolutely nails that\u2026. and I think running a business is something I\u2019m good at. Can I say that?\u201d On an early inspiration: \u201cMy parents would never talk me out of anything. They\u2019d give me their opinion, and I might take it or I might not take it. But I appreciated that they also took risks and I saw that\u2026 I\u2019ve never actually thought about that before. But ya, I think that\u2019s what it was.\u201d On learnings from her time at Decca Records: \u201cI had to learn how to stay calm under pressure, make sure that I had an awareness of what was going on. You know that feeling when you get overwhelmed and you start to panic and you can\u2019t think straight. That was really good training of just being like, \u2018No, things will work out. Just think straight and you\u2019ll be fine.\u2019 And I think over the last couple of years I\u2019ve gone, \u2018I literally don\u2019t know what do to here.\u2019 But it\u2019s having faith in yourself that you will figure something out.\u201d On the importance of passion: \u201cEverything that I\u2019ve done in my career so far has been something that I\u2019ve wanted to do. And it\u2019s been interesting. And I think having an interest in what you do is really important.\u201d On the Women in Beer mentorship programme: \u201cHaving the Women in Beer network has been life changing for me in that it\u2019s given me the ability to see other people doing the things I\u2019m doing.\u201d &amp;nbsp; Links &amp;amp; things: What we\u2019re drinking:   Kerroo x Colbier Aranne Mountain IPA   Elizabeth &amp;amp; Nick\u2019s brewery:   Kerroo Brewing Company   Where she worked before:   Decca Records   One of her best pieces of work there:   Sheku Kanneh Mason in GQ   Listen here     Podcast recc:   Pellicle podcast:   Ep85 \u2014 How Thornbridge Saved The Burton Union   (Nat\u2019s addition: Ep80 \u2014 Nick Scarffe and Elizabeth Townsend of Kerroo Brewing)     TV reccs:   Ozark   Arrested Development   Who she\u2019d love to share a drink with: Jessie Buckley   Hamnet   Cabaret   &amp;nbsp; Recording info:   March 2026 at BeerX, Liverpool   &amp;nbsp;  Subscribe&amp;nbsp;|&amp;nbsp;Follow on Instagram&amp;nbsp;|&amp;nbsp;Email &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; ","author_name":"Cheers with Nat","author_url":"https:\/\/cheerswithnat.substack.com\/","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/40970300\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/201051495"}