{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Leading Legal in a Product-Led Company","description":"Summary In this episode of Uplevel View, Stephanie Corey sits down with Betsy Cantrell, VP of Legal at HighLevel, to explore how legal teams must evolve in fast-moving, product-led organizations. Betsy shares her journey from a highly structured corporate legal environment at Intel to building a scrappy, agile legal function from scratch in a startup. The conversation dives into how legal teams can move from being perceived as blockers to becoming strategic partners embedded within product development. Key themes include integrating legal into product workflows, hiring adaptable talent, leveraging legal operations, and\u2014most critically\u2014embracing AI as a core driver of efficiency, scalability, and relevance. Betsy emphasizes that the biggest risk today isn\u2019t using AI imperfectly\u2014it\u2019s not using it at all. This episode is a must-listen for legal leaders looking to modernize their function, scale effectively, and stay ahead in an AI-driven world. Links &amp;amp; Resources   UpLevel Ops: http:\/\/UplevelOps.com   Above The Law: http:\/\/AbovetheLaw.com   Keywords Legal Operations, Product-Led Companies, In-House Counsel, AI in Legal, Legal Tech, Startup Legal, Compliance, Privacy Law, Workflow Automation, Legal Strategy, General Counsel, Legal Innovation, AI Adoption, Corporate Law, Legal Leadership \ud83c\udfa7 Episode Highlights (with timestamps)   00:00\u201300:33 \u2013 Why legal involvement often comes too late in product-led companies   01:13\u201301:49 \u2013 Betsy\u2019s journey: from Intel to building a startup legal team from scratch   02:18\u201303:05 \u2013 The cultural shift: from legal authority to proving value   03:05\u201304:08 \u2013 Why legal must understand product and user experience   05:33\u201306:31 \u2013 Hiring for startups: curiosity over specialization   06:53\u201307:48 \u2013 Learning new legal domains (like privacy) on the fly   08:06\u201308:47 \u2013 Why the first hire was legal ops\u2014not a lawyer   11:01\u201311:27 \u2013 The power of exposure and learning across domains   12:21\u201313:05 \u2013 Using competitors and AI as benchmarks for decision-making   15:13\u201316:11 \u2013 Embedding legal into product workflows without friction   16:55\u201317:34 \u2013 Using AI agents to flag legal risks automatically   20:29\u201320:45 \u2013 Why complex intake forms fail   21:37\u201322:28 \u2013 AI agents replacing repetitive legal review work   23:30\u201324:13 \u2013 The real risk: not adopting AI fast enough   27:01\u201327:43 \u2013 AI as a headcount multiplier for legal teams   ","author_name":"UpLevel View","author_url":"https:\/\/sites.libsyn.com\/485439","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/40677300\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/200288380"}