{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"How The Listings Lab Can 10X Your Business With Jess Lenouvel","description":"What would change in your business if you stopped chasing ready now leads and started building trust with people much earlier in their decision-making journey? In this episode of the Real Estate Excellence Podcast, Tracy Hayes sits down with Jess Lenouvel. Jess is the founder of The Listings Lab, author of More Money Less Hustle, and a real estate marketing strategist known for helping agents build scalable businesses through digital marketing, systems, and psychology. In this conversation, she explains why outdated prospecting methods are failing, why most agents misunderstand branding, and how attraction-based marketing creates stronger long term client relationships. She also breaks down the biggest gaps holding agents back, including poor messaging, weak systems, AI misuse, and a lack of understanding of human psychology. Jess shares how she built her first 100 deals through early Facebook conversations, why luxury is not a real niche, and how agents can move from burnout to a true business model with more income and less hustle.   Highlights 00:00 - 04:07 Breaking Past the Solo Agent Growth Ceiling How fast growth creates operational pressure Why agents hit a production ceiling. The danger of waiting too long to build support. Systems before overwhelm. Preparing for a surge in business before it happens. 04:07 - 08:28 Running Real Estate Like a True Business Why commissions are not all personal income. Business accounts versus personal accounts. Paying yourself a salary. Budgeting for growth and support. Why agents need financial structure early. 08:28 - 18:00 From Shy New Agent to Digital Marketing Trailblazer Jess shares how she entered real estate. Why traditional training did not fit her. Building on Facebook in 2005.How conversations turned renters into buyers. Using psychology to turn strangers into clients. 18:00 - 28:50 Building a Personal Brand That Attracts Clients Why brokerages are not the consumer facing brand. Why logos and colors matter less in 2026. Turning yourself into the hook. Speaking to people earlier in their journey. Why connection and personal story matter online. 28:50 - 45:14 Using AI, Branding, and Systems to Scale How Jess uses her book to train AI in her voice. What bad AI content looks like. Why agents must edit and fact check outputs. The role of systems, automation, and support. Moving from agent operator to CEO. 45:14 - 55:25 The Digital Marketing Mistakes Agents Still Make Why just listed and just sold posts are not enough. The difference between content that gets engagement and appointments. How case studies outperform property posts. Why trial reels matter for audience growth. Where agents should start if they are stuck at six figures.   Quotes: \u201cIf you would not run an ad that said I only work with rich people then you should not market yourself as a luxury agent.\u201d \u2013 Jess Lenouvel \u201cIf your life does not show it you do not know it.\u201d \u2013 Jess Lenouvel \u201cNostalgia is not a strategy.\u201d \u2013 Jess Lenouvel \u201cYou will never come up with anything brilliant if you are busy all day.\u201d \u2013 Jess Lenouvel   To contact Jess Lenouvel, learn more about her business, and make her a part of your network, make sure to follow her Website and Instagram.   Connect with Jess Lenouvel! Website: https:\/\/www.thelistingslab.com Instagram: https:\/\/instagram.com\/jesslenouvel Facebook: https:\/\/facebook.com\/groups\/thelistingslab YouTube: https:\/\/youtube.com\/jesslenouvel   Connect with me! Website: toprealtorjacksonville.com   Website: toprealtorstaugustine.com    SUBSCRIBE & LEAVE A 5-STAR REVIEW as we discuss real estate excellence with the best of the best.   #RealEstateExcellence #JessLenouvel #realestate #realestateagent #realestatemarketing #digitalmarketing #socialmediamarketing #personalbrand #branding #leadgeneration #contentmarketing #realestatecoach #marketingstrategy #aiinmarketing #instagrammarketing #realtorlife #realestatebusiness #businesssystems #agentgrowth #realestatepodcast #moremoneylesshustle #listinglab ","author_name":"Real Estate Excellence","author_url":"https:\/\/www.tracyhayespodcast.com","html":"