{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"412  - Marty and Eric MacBook Neo First Impressions and Dave\u2019s iPhone 17e Impression","description":"  The latest In Touch With iOS with Dave he is joined by Jill McKinley, Chuck Joiner, Jeff Gamet, Eric Bolden, Marty Jencius, Guy Serle.This week the panel focuses on two major hands-on topics. Marty Jencius and Eric Bolden share their first impressions of Apple\u2019s new MacBook Neo, including real-world testing, performance surprises, and how it could disrupt the entry-level laptop market. Dave also gives his hands-on impressions of the new iPhone 17e, discussing MagSafe\u2019s return, display improvements, and why it could be a strong entry-level iPhone. The group also touches on the latest Apple beta updates, Vision Pro airline etiquette, Apple\u2019s upcoming 50-year anniversary, and MacStock news.   The show notes are at  InTouchwithiOS.com   &amp;nbsp;Direct Link to Audio&amp;nbsp;   Links to our Show   Give us a review on Apple Podcasts!   CLICK HERE  we would really appreciate it!   Click this link Buy me a Coffee to support the show we would really appreciate it.  intouchwithios.com\/coffee&amp;nbsp;   Another way to support the show is to become a Patreon member  patreon.com\/intouchwithios   Website: In Touch With iOS   YouTube Channel    In Touch with iOS Magazine on Flipboard   Facebook Page   BlueSky   Mastodon   X   Instagram   Threads   Summary   In this episode, Dave Ginsburg is joined by a full panel of Apple experts including Jeff Gamet, Chuck Joiner, Guy Serle, Marty Jencius, Jill McKinley, and Eric Bolden. The group dives into the latest Apple news and beta updates including visionOS 26.4 beta 4, iOS 26.4, and other platform updates. They also spend significant time discussing the newly released MacBook Neo, Apple\u2019s surprise entry-level Mac that is already shaking up the PC and Chromebook market.   The panel explores how the MacBook Neo performs in real-world scenarios, including video encoding tests and education-focused use cases. Early impressions suggest Apple may have dramatically changed the budget laptop landscape. The discussion also touches on how competitors like ASUS are already reacting to the Neo\u2019s disruptive price point and performance.   Vision Pro remains part of the conversation as the group discusses new features in the latest visionOS beta and a curious real-world incident where a passenger was asked to remove their Vision Pro during a flight. The panel debates airline rules, passenger etiquette, and how spatial computing devices fit into public environments.   One of the biggest topics this week is Apple\u2019s newly released MacBook Neo, and both Marty Jencius and Eric Bolden share their early hands-on impressions. Marty puts the machine through a real-world test by converting a 4K video project to 1080p in Final Cut Pro, revealing performance that surprised even seasoned Mac users. Eric also shares his experience using the Neo alongside Apple Vision Pro in a coffee shop workflow, highlighting how the device works well as a lightweight entry point into the Mac ecosystem.   Dave also shares his  first impressions of the new iPhone 17e, which he recently picked up through a carrier upgrade. He talks about the improvements over the previous model, including the return of  MagSafe, a better display, and increased base storage. While positioned as Apple\u2019s entry-level iPhone, Dave explains why it may be an excellent option for many users looking for a capable iPhone without stepping up to the higher-priced Pro models.   Other topics include Apple continuing security updates for older devices, new Apple TV+ Friday Night Baseball announcements, and reflections on Apple\u2019s upcoming 50th anniversary celebration. The group also shares personal stories about the Macs that meant the most to them over the years.   Finally, the team wraps up with exciting news about MacStock X, where several panelists will be speaking, and encourages listeners to join the Apple community event.   Topics and Links &amp;nbsp;   In Touch With Vision Pro this week.&amp;nbsp;    visionOS 26.4 Beta 3 Release Notes | Apple Developer Documentation    Apple Vision Pro user learns the hard way that flight attendants have the final say   Beta this week.&amp;nbsp;    Apple Seeds Fourth Betas of iOS 26.4 and iPadOS 26.4 to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]    Everything New in iOS 26.4 Beta 4    Apple Releases Fourth watchOS 26.4, tvOS 26.4 and visionOS 26.4 Betas   Apple Releases New Versions of iOS for Older iPhones - MacRumors   In Touch With Mac this week    Fourth macOS Tahoe 26.4 Beta Now Available for Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]  Zoom on Rosetta?   Marty and Eric both have Macbook Neo. They give their first impressions.    PSA: Neo won\u2019t work with some MacBook USB-C hubs    Apple Releases macOS 26.3.2 Update for MacBook Neo  Only for Neo    MacBook Neo Teardown: Modular Ports, Glue-Less Battery, Zero Tape    MacBook Neo's Keyboard Can Be Replaced Individually   MacBook Neo's AppleCare+ Repair Fees Are Lower Than All Other Macs   Dave has the new M5 MBA and MBP M5 Pro (Marty got his M5Max today) as of today. Apple Store visit and Neo.   Other Topics   Dave has the iPhone 17e and gives first impressions after trading in the 16e   iPhone 17e Hands-On: What's New and What's Not - MacRumors   News    Friday Night Baseball Returns to Apple TV on March 27 for 2026 MLB Season    Apple to celebrate 50 years of thinking different   CHM Live | Apple at 50: Five Decades of Thinking Different &amp;nbsp;   Announcementsst   Macstock X is here celebrating its 10th anniversary ! Dave, Chuck, Jeff, Marty, and Jill are all speaking this year!. With Three Full Days of expert-led Presentations and Workshops, Macstock\u2019s sessions are crammed full of productivity-enhancing content. NEW this year is a partnership with sponsor Ecamm. Ecamm Creator Camp: Mac Edition on July 9, 2026 there are only 100 tickets available for the bundle. There are 2 passes available: Macstock weekend pass July 10,11,12, 2026 or the Macstock Ecamm Bundle starting July 9 (only 100 tickets available)&amp;nbsp; Come join us.  Register HERE  Its official! Dave is speaking for a 10th consecutive year!!   Our Host   Dave Ginsburg  is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users and shares his wealth of knowledge of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and related technologies. Visit the YouTube channel  https:\/\/youtube.com\/intouchwithios  follow him on Mastodon  @daveg65, , BlueSky  @daveg65  &amp;nbsp;and the show  @intouchwithios &amp;nbsp;   Our Regular Contributors   Jeff Gamet  is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer\u2019s managing editor, and Smile\u2019s TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon  @jgamet  Pixelfed  @jgamet@pixelfed.social  and Bluesky  @jgamet.bsky.social\u202c  Podcasts  The Context Machine Podcast&amp;nbsp; Retro Rewatch  Retro Rewatch  His YouTube channel  https:\/\/youtube.com\/jgamet   Marty Jencius, Ph.D., is a professor of counselor education at Kent State University, where he researches, writes, and trains about using technology in teaching and mental health practice. His podcasts include  Vision Pro Files,   The Tech Savvy Professor  and  Circular Firing Squad Podcast. Find him at  jencius@mastodon.social&amp;nbsp;  https:\/\/thepodtalk.net&amp;nbsp;   Eric Bolden  is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him by email at  eabolden@mac.com, on  Mastodon  at @eabolden@techhub.social, on his blog,  Trending At Work, and as co-host on  The Vision ProFiles  podcast. &amp;nbsp;   Jill McKinley  works in enterprise software, server administration, and IT A lifelong tech enthusiast, she started her career with Windows but is now an avid Apple fan. Beyond technology, she shares her insights on nature, faith, and personal growth through her podcasts\u2014Buzz Blossom &amp;amp; Squeak, Start with Small Steps, and The Bible in Small Steps. Watch her content on YouTube at  @startwithsmallsteps  and follow her on X  @schmern. Find all her work at  http:\/\/jillfromthenorthwoods.com&amp;nbsp;   Chuck Joiner  is the host of MacVoices and hosts video podcasts with influential members of the Apple community. Make sure to visit  macvoices.com  and subscribe to his podcast. You can follow him on Twitter  @chuckjoiner  and join his  MacVoices Facebook group.   Guy Serle  is one of the hosts of the new The Gmen Show along with GazMaz and email  GMenshow@icloud.com&amp;nbsp;  @MacParrot  and  @VertShark  on X&amp;nbsp;  Vertshark  on YouTube, Google Voice +1 Area code&amp;nbsp; 703-828-4677 ","author_name":"In Touch with iOS","author_url":"https:\/\/intouchwithios.com","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/40485385\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/8b35b8\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/199699110"}