{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"What Keeps a 37-Year Relationship Alive with the Open-Nesters","description":"  In this episode of The Better Sex Podcast, I talk with Open Nesters co-hosts, speaker and consciousness facilitator Tessa and entrepreneur and DJ Amir. Together, they explore what it means to stay open \u2014 to each other, to pleasure, and to possibility \u2014 through decades of partnership, parenting, and evolving sexual expression.   They share the story of their 37-year relationship, including how they kept their connection alive while raising three children, how their \u201copen nest\u201d mindset emerged, and how their journey into non-monogamy unfolded over time. Along the way, they reflect on the role of playfulness, intentional date time, communication, and honest conversations about desire, as well as the challenges and growth that come with redefining relationship agreements.   Throughout the conversation, they offer a grounded perspective on long-term intimacy: that sexuality is fluid across the lifespan, that knowing your own pleasure is essential, and that thriving relationships require ongoing intention, curiosity, and a willingness to stay engaged even when things feel uncomfortable or unfamiliar.   This episode is an invitation to see long-term love not as something that fades, but as a living practice that can deepen, expand, and remain vibrant well into later chapters of life.   Connect with The Open-Nesters   Website:  https:\/\/theopennesters.com   Podcast: https:\/\/theopennesters.com\/episodes\/   Email: tessa@theopennesters.com   Connect with Deborah   Skool Community: https:\/\/www.skool.com\/better-sex-9290\/about   Substack:  https:\/\/substack.com\/@deborahkat   YouTube  https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@deborahkat9349   Instagram  https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/deborahtantrakat\/   Podcast Feedback  DeborahTantraKat@Gmail.com&amp;nbsp;   Book a breakthrough session with Deborah   \u2028https:\/\/app.acuityscheduling.com\/schedule.php?owner=11737312&amp;amp;appointmentType=60692935&amp;nbsp;   \u2028Sex and Relationship tips direct to you Inbox   \u2028https:\/\/deborahkat.us5.list-manage.com\/subscribe?u=428b26a12a8810bb5012792c3&amp;amp;id=ff89fb0d94 ","author_name":"The Better Sex Podcast ~ Unfiltered Conversations","author_url":"http:\/\/deborahkat.com\/better-sex-podcast","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/40171115\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/198801475"}