{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"315: Phoebe Katis","description":"Phoebe Katis \u2014 a UK-born, New York\u2013based songwriter can pinpoint the moment when her life and career were quietly reoriented. It started with a single direct message. Katis traces her journey from being a young singer-songwriter in England, measuring herself against inherited ideas of success, to becoming part of a global musical community through a series of small, intentional actions \u2014 including the DM that led to her first collaboration with Cory Wong, years of touring, a move to the U.S., and a creative and personal life she never could have planned. At the center of the conversation is the idea of the inflection point \u2014 the moments that don\u2019t announce themselves while they\u2019re happening, but later reveal themselves as before-and-after lines. Katis speaks candidly about ambition, people-pleasing, pop music as a delivery system for emotional truth, and the reality of sustaining a creative life without asking your art to carry everything. Her latest album, A Coming Of Age was released in late 2025. Here she reflects on success and arrival, the value of side hustles, pop music as a delivery system for truth, how to build a creative life without asking your art to carry everything.and what it means to keep \u201ccoming of age\u201d well into adulthood. www.third-story.com www.leosidran.substack.com www.wbgo.org\/podcast\/the-third-story ","author_name":"The Third Story Podcast with Leo Sidran","author_url":"http:\/\/thirdstorypodcast.libsyn.com\/podcast","html":"