{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Befriending Fear: How the President of Occuscreen Navigates High-Stakes Decisions with Pamela Mack","description":"How do you transition from a supportive role to leading a company for over a decade? In this episode of Women\u2019s Million Dollar Conversations, Alice Tang sits down with her longtime friend and President of Occuscreen, Pamela Mack, to discuss the reality of building a business over 30 years. Pamela opens up about the "imposter syndrome" that many women face and how she overcame her own internal biases to embrace her role as a leader. From learning to delegate to experts to "befriending" fear, Pamela shares how she built a successful background screening company while staying true to her values of security and experience. In this episode, you\u2019ll learn: How to navigate internal and external biases as a woman in leadership. The importance of surrounding yourself with people who fill your skill gaps. Why "stubbornness" and a clear vision are essential when you want to quit. Key Moments: 00:00 - Welcome to Women\u2019s Million Dollar Conversations 01:05 - Meet Pamela Mack: 30 years of Occuscreen 03:59 - Navigating age and gender bias in the family and boardroom 05:33 - What keeps you going when things get hard? 07:54 - Pamela\u2019s process for making big decisions 09:57 - Befriending fear and asking "Why are you here?" 11:46 - Number one piece of advice: Stop trying to be perfect. 15:10 - Lessons from The Year of Magical Thinking. ","author_name":"Women's Million Dollar Conversations","author_url":"https:\/\/askalicetang.com\/womens-million-dollar-conversations\/","html":"