{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Zach Bush, MD & Eva Dalak on \u2060Relating to Our Original Imprint: Nature & Collective Healing.","description":"Hosted by J\u2019aime Rothbard & Rosemary Davies-Janes. Produced by J\u2019aime Rothbard. What if the path to inner and outer peace\u2014and to the survival of our species\u2014runs through our biology, not just our psychology? In this bonus finale to our Relating Series, Eva and Zach guide us beyond the familiar terrain of human-to-human relating to the new ground of relating to our original imprint. This conversation weaves hard science with systems thinking and spiritual wisdom to show that rather than transcending our humanity, healing our separation wound is about fully embracing our original design as vessels of biodiversity, wisdom and interconnected intelligence. Our guests explain: - The energetic upgrade offered by, \u2018remembering through water\u2019 - How the victim-perpetrator-saviour triad (The Drama Triangle) has served us, and why it's time to transmute it - What constriction and expansion reveal about the human experience - Why the human colon holds more biodiversity than any other species If you've been seeking peace through fixing, escaping, or transcending the darkness, this episode offers a radically different perspective: \u201cWhat if we came here to experience it all?\u201d  Listen to this mind-expanding discussion to see how shifting from polarization to polarity, and welcoming both compression and expansion, can transform your own life journey. About Eva Dalak Founder, Peace Activation A skilled conflict transformation facilitator and peacebuilding trainer, for 20+ years Eva has worked with international organisations in 22+ conflict zones across Africa, the Middle East and Asia, blending systemic change with personal and collective healing. After 30+ years as a gender and conflict expert, she leads trauma- informed, soul-centered initiatives as a women\u2019s empowerment coach.  Growing up as a Palestinian-Muslim in Israel, Eva experienced a fragmented identity within a system designed to \u2018divide and rule.\u2019. Fluent in five languages, she\u2019s trained in international development and law, spiritual psychology, and somatic experiencing.  Currently based in Costa Rica, Eva launched Peace Activation on October 7, 2023 in response to the escalating crisis in Palestine and Israel. A global peace initiative, it\u2019s rooted in the belief that sustainable peace begins within. Eva also hosts the Peace is Possible podcast and authors The Other Narrative Substack. About Zach Bush, MD A physician specializing in internal medicine, endocrinology and hospice care, Zach is an internationally recognized educator and thought leader on the microbiome as it relates to health, disease, and food systems.  He founded the Seraphic Group and the non-profit Farmer\u2019s Footprint to develop root-cause solutions for human and ecological health.  His passion for education reaches across many disciplines, including topics such as the role of soil and water ecosystems in human genomics, immunity, and gut\/brain health.  Zach\u2019s education has highlighted the need for a radical departure from chemical farming and pharmacy, and his ongoing efforts are providing a path for consumers, farmers and mega-industries to work together for a healthy future for people and our planet. Promotional Message: If you're not a therapist or healer, but you've heard our guests describe the personal transformations they experienced during their Compassionate Inquiry\u00ae journeys, and wonder what that would be like for you... Circles is a 10-week small group experience offered to anyone who wants to experience the power of Gabor Mat\u00e9\u2019s approach to trauma healing. Use this link to find out if this program is for you. Resources Websites: Eva Dalak Peace Activation Zach Bush Farmer\u2019s Footprint Related links:  The Drama Triangle The Other Narrative \u2013 Substack Earth One Transatlantic Crossing Earthrise Collective Pooven Moodley Ubuntu Burning Man Courses: Peace Leader Pathway Journey Collective Immersion Compassionate Inquiry Circles  Books: Dancing In The Dark: How I Found My True Vision For Peace. Human: From Crisis to Our Greatest Opportunity (Available Aug 18) Pleiadan Prophesy 2020: The New Golden Age Podcasts: Peace is Possible Podcast August 2025 Interview with Eva & Zach Quotes: \u201cMore so than the victim or the perpetrator, the savior is actually the one going in to poison the system and see who can survive.\u201d - Zach Bush, MD \u201cI'm inviting people to come to that field, beyond right doing and wrongdoing. This field where you exist and you have all legitimacy to exist without doing anything.\u201d - Eva Dalak \u201c...there is no saving a system that sees itself as its own enemy. And every cancer cell is an inherent part of every human body, and it is your self.\u201d - Zach Bush, MD \u201cIn Arabic, we say, \u201cYom asal yom basal.\u201d One day it's gonna be honey, and one day it's gonna be onion. When you're in a honey day, you know that tomorrow might be an onion, and it's going to stink.\u201d - Eva Dalak \u201c... the loneliest cell in the body is the cancer cell\u2026 If you welcome it back into the fold, it will eliminate all of its own cancer properties and will actually call in stem cells to lay down healthy tissue.\u201d - Zach Bush, MD "Stop waiting for the king. Be a queen.\u201d - Caroline Myss \u201c... abandonment disorder is the fundamental foundation of human behavior. In our improving sciences around addiction, we find addiction is the necessary and absolute reaction to abandonment disorder.\u201d - Zach Bush, MD \u201cThe way in which we tend to drown in guilt again is addiction. So our choice is either to perpetuate our own victimization through addiction, or hold our ground and switch the direction of guilt to shame as a weapon.\u201d - Zach Bush, MD Social Media: Eva's Instagram Zach\u2019s Instagram Eva's Facebook Zach\u2019s Facebook Eva's LinkedIn Zach\u2019s LinkedIn Eva's Youtube Zach\u2019s YouTube Zach\u2019s X   ","author_name":"The Gifts of Trauma","author_url":"https:\/\/sites.libsyn.com\/533177","html":"