{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"The Chiles Bros: One Lean Geek. One Old Dawg. (Episode 92)","description":" In this absolutely, positively NO Bullshido kickoff episode, Adam Hoots sits down with Brian Chiles and Mike Chiles\u2014two brothers with deep roots in relationships, leadership, and Lean thinking lived out in the real world. Brian came into construction from a teaching\/coaching and project management background; Mike brings 20+ years in the industry, raising four kids while remaining relentless about respect for people and building teams that work together. This conversation is equal parts family, field, and flow. The Chiles Bros unpack why Lean is not a tool, why relationships are the real work, and how the best leaders \u201cfeed the hungry\u201d instead of wasting energy trying to convince people who don\u2019t want it. They talk about being curious, not judgmental, the difference between explaining tools vs. teaching them, and why the 87\/13 (character over competency) shows up, whether you like it or not. If you\u2019re trying to build trust, reduce conflict, and lead people\u2014not just tasks\u2014this one is a straight shot of Old Dawg wisdom with a Lean Geek edge. KEY TAKEAWAYS:  \u2022       Feed the Hungry: Stop spending 80% of your time trying to win over the 20% who don\u2019t care. Find the receptive people and build momentum through them. \u2022       Tools Don\u2019t Stick Without Trust: It\u2019s easy to explain A3, 5S, and planning tools. It\u2019s hard to teach them without relationships and psychological safety. \u2022       Optimize the Whole: The best projects don\u2019t pit field vs. office. They create one team\u2014shared reality, shared plan, shared wins. \u2022       Be Curious, Not Judgmental: Great leaders pause before reacting, look for the system issue, and consider what wounds\/stress might be driving behavior. \u2022       87\/13 Leadership: Your character is influencing people whether you intend it or not\u2014choose whether that influence builds trust or triggers defensiveness. EPISODE QUOTES (paraphrased): \u2022       \u201cFind the hungry\u2014and feed them. Don\u2019t waste your fire on people who don\u2019t want it.\u201d \u2022       \u201cIt\u2019s easy to explain the tools. Teaching them takes trust.\u201d \u2022       \u201cYou can feel the health of a weekly work plan meeting the same way you can feel a locker room.\u201d \u2022       \u201cPeople protect their wounds, but they\u2019ll brag about their scars.\u201d \u2022       \u201cYour character is influencing the jobsite whether you mean it to or not\u2014lead for good.\u201d RESOURCE LINKS MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: \u2022       Lean Construction Institute (LCI) Congress \u2014 relationship-fueled learning, community, and recharge. https:\/\/leanconstruction.org\/ \u2022       Old Dawg Lean Thesaurus (Adam Hoots & Buddy Brumley) \u2014 Lean terms translated for the field (Old Dawg + Lean Geek). https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Old-Dawg-Lean-Thesaurus-Making\/dp\/B0C6W48CKF \u2022       Everything I Learned About Lean I Learned in First Grade \u2014 reminder that Lean is simple when you stop overcomplicating it. https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Everything-About-Learned-First-Grade\/dp\/1934109347 \u2022       Ted Lasso \u2014 \u201cBe curious, not judgmental.\u201d https:\/\/tv.apple.com\/us\/show\/ted-lasso\/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy \u2022       The Tipping Point (Malcolm Gladwell) \u2014 connectors, influence, and how ideas spread. https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Tipping-Point-Little-Things-Difference\/dp\/0316346624 \u2022       Dave Ramsey \u2014 simple wisdom delivered in a way people can actually apply. www.ramseysolutions.com \u2022       Scrum \/ Felipe Engineer-Manriquez \u2014 learning a \u201cnew toy,\u201d then applying it with people-first intention. https:\/\/www.theebfcshow.com\/ \u2022       Mac Story \/ Blue-Collar Leadership \u2014 87\/13 and character-driven leadership (referenced throughout). https:\/\/bluecollarleadership.com\/ GUESTS FEATURED IN THIS EPISODE: \u2022       Adam Hoots | LinkedIn www.linkedin.com\/in\/adamhoots Host of Hoots on the Ground, The Lean Builder voice from the field. \u2022       Mike Chiles | LinkedIn https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/mike-chiles\/  \u2014 Project Director at JE Dunn Construction - Construction leader, people-first builder, husband and father of four, Lean community connector. \u2022       Brian Chiles | LinkedIn https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/brianchilesmas\/ \u2014 Lean Specialist at JE Dunn Construction - Lean specialist and former coach\/teacher turned builder of teams, trust, and jobsite flow. ABOUT HOOTS ON THE GROUND PODCAST: The Lean Builder\u2019s absolutely, positively NO Bullshido podcast. Join host Adam Hoots and his guests as they dig deep into the topics that matter most to those in the field. With stories from the trenches, lessons learned, and plenty of laughter, this podcast is for the men and women doing the hands-on work of construction. ","author_name":"Hoots on the Ground | The Lean Builder","author_url":"https:\/\/theleanbuilder.com\/podcasts","html":"