{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"S7 E8 - Sasha Bernier | Diversification &amp; The Rise of Industrial Outdoor Storage","description":"Is your investment strategy diversified enough to withstand the next market cycle? \ud83d\udd04  In this episode of Real Returns, host Andrew Reichert sits down with Sasha Bernier, Managing Partner at Hestia Holdings and Partner at Cheltenham Enterprises. With a career spanning private equity, credit hedge funds, and law, Sasha shares his &quot;tactical&quot; approach to real estate and why he believes the most resilient returns are found in the niches most investors overlook.  Sasha reveals the specific &quot;home run&quot; deal in Florida that moved from an 8% cap rate to a 5.75% cap rate simply by securing a credit tenant, and why he\u2019s doubling down on Industrial Outdoor Storage (IOS) as the next institutional frontier. From navigating the Great Financial Crisis to identifying the &quot;impaired assets&quot; that will hit the market in 2026, Sasha provides a masterclass in disciplined investing.  Learn how a holistic approach, incorporating meditation and mentorship, drives professional success, why the most impactful investment you can make is &quot;betting on the jockey&quot; through independent sponsors, and how Sasha is building a legacy for the next generation.  Timestamps: 00:00 - Opening Segment 00:55 - Meet Sasha Bernier: From Law School to Real Estate Titan 02:00 - Lessons from the Great Financial Crisis: The Power of Patient Capital 04:55 - The 2021 Peak: Why Discipline Beats Speculation 07:05 - Why Industrial Outdoor Storage (IOS) is the New Frontier 08:15 - Case Study: The 10,000 Sq Ft Florida IOS &quot;Home Run&quot; Deal 10:30 - Market Predictions for 2026: Distressed Assets and Opportunity 11:45 - Investing for Impact: Mentoring Independent Sponsors 13:50 - Building Legacy: Lessons from Mentors and the Next Generation 15:05 - The Most Significant Win: The Decision to Spin Out 16:10 - Lightning Round: The Shawshank Redemption and Meditation 17:35 - Closing Segment  Key Quote: &quot;When we find\u2026independent sponsors that don't have capital, and we can help them with that capital to grow and become stronger and then build their own wealth. For us, that\u2019s impactful.&quot; - Sasha Bernier  Connect with Sasha: LinkedIn: Sasha Bernier Website: Hestia Holdings  Subscribe to Real Returns wherever you listen to podcasts for more insights on impactful investing and alternative asset strategies. LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, AND LEAVE US A REVIEW on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, YouTube, or whatever platform you listen on. Thank you for tuning in, and Stay Tuned for the next episode COMING SOON! ","author_name":"Real Returns","author_url":"https:\/\/www.birgo.com\/capital","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/39492230\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/196783250"}