{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":300,"width":600,"title":"325 GUEST: Lee Salz: Why Discovery Calls Must Die (And What to Do Instead)","description":"Too many salespeople celebrate getting the meeting\u2026 and then blow it with a stiff, self-serving \u201cdiscovery call\u201d that prospects secretly dread. In this episode, Art sits down with sales differentiation strategist and bestselling author Lee Salz to rethink that critical first conversation\u2014and turn it into a client-centric consultation that buyers actually value. Lee shares how to deliver meaningful value in the first meeting, why \u201cdiscovery\u201d language and agendas instantly signal \u201cthis is about me, not you,\u201d and how to use stories and emotion (not just logic) to move prospects from mere inconvenience to true problem\u2014and action. You\u2019ll also hear how top trial lawyers and doctors structure questions, build emotional engagement, and guide people to their own conclusions\u2026 and how to steal those approaches for your sales calls. In this episode, you\u2019ll learn:   Why traditional discovery meetings \u201cmust die\u201d   How to position the first meeting as a consultation buyers want to attend   The difference between an inconvenience and a real problem\u2014and how to uncover it   How to ask emotive questions that create an \u201cI feel that\u201d response   Ways to show \u201cempathetic expertise\u201d so prospects walk away thinking, \u201cThis person really gets me.\u201d   Grab Lee\u2019s new book, The First Meeting Differentiator, and the free first-chapter + bonuses at http:\/\/FirstMeetingBook.com. ","author_name":"The Art of Sales with Art Sobczak","author_url":"http:\/\/TheArtOfSales.com","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/39227545\/height\/300\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"300\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/item\/39227545"}