{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"251: Holy Indifference with Sara Billups","description":"Today on the podcast, Merideth chats with Seattle-based writer Sara Billups, who explores faith and culture in her new book,  Nervous Systems. They discuss the connection between anxiety and creative drive, and Sara shares a powerful spiritual practice called &quot;holy indifference,&quot; which can free artists from the tyranny of outcome. They chat about sharing work when you're an Enneagram 4 and also offer practical steps for setting boundaries with social media to protect your most vulnerable work. Get Nervous Systems Read more about Sara Download the Curtain Call Questions&amp;nbsp; Learn more about the Creative Leap Mastermind  Grab your free discovery call with Merideth Join the next Artist's Way Creative Cluster Support the podcast by becoming a Joyster on Patreon ","author_name":"Artists for Joy","author_url":"http:\/\/www.artistsforjoy.org\/pod","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/39191735\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/195916305"}