{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"696: Transcending Our Political Divisions &amp; Labels with Andy Beshear","description":"Mike Erre joins Phil and Skye to discuss a New York Times column by David Brooks. He says America\u2019s divisions will only heal when we abandon shallow labels and war metaphors, and instead see one another as fellow pilgrims on a journey. America\u2019s Catholic bishops issue a stern rebuke of the Trump administration\u2019s dehumanizing rhetoric and policies, which makes Phil wonder why evangelical leaders can\u2019t do the same. Then, Skye talks to Kentucky\u2019s Democratic governor, Andy Beshear, about why he\u2019s so popular in a state that Donald Trump won by 30 points, and how his party can begin to narrow the \u201cGod gap\u201d with voters. Also this week\u2014an A.I. vacuum cleaner has an existential crisis. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/posts\/143884054\/ &amp;nbsp; 0:00 - Show Starts &amp;nbsp; 3:32 - Theme Song &amp;nbsp; 3:54 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https:\/\/www.betterhelp.com\/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month! &amp;nbsp; 4:54 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Get the AG1 welcome pack when you order from https:\/\/www.drinkag1.com\/HOLYPOST &amp;nbsp; 6:20 -&amp;nbsp; AI Roomba Has a Breakdown 16:08- David Brooks on Pilgrimage and Pluralism &amp;nbsp; 45:50 - Catholic Bishops Critical on Immigration Law &amp;nbsp; 50:12 - Sponsor - Brooklyn Bedding - Brooklyn Bedding is offering up to 25% off sitewide for our listeners! Go to https:\/\/www.brooklynbedding.com\/HOLYPOST &amp;nbsp; 51:15 -&amp;nbsp; Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at https:\/\/www.rocketmoney.com\/HOLYPOST &amp;nbsp; 52:21 - Interview &amp;nbsp; 54:48 - What Went Wrong with Democrats? &amp;nbsp; 1:03:42 - Fire with Fire Approach? &amp;nbsp; 1:09:06 - Democrat\u2019s Aversion to Religious Language &amp;nbsp; 1:13:30 - Pro-Life Democrats? &amp;nbsp; 1:21:51 - How Will Democrats Change? &amp;nbsp; 1:25:32 - End Credits &amp;nbsp; Links Mentioned in News Segment: Roomba Butter Breakdown:  https:\/\/futurism.com\/artificial-intelligence\/llm-robot-vacuum-existential-crisis &amp;nbsp; David Brooks Article on Pluralism:  https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/11\/13\/opinion\/christian-nationalism.html &amp;nbsp; Catholic Bishops on Trump\u2019s Immigration Policies:  https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/11\/12\/us\/bishops-trump-immigration.html &amp;nbsp; Other Resources: Holy Post website: https:\/\/www.holypost.com\/ &amp;nbsp; Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com\/plus &amp;nbsp; Holy Post Patreon: https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/holypost &amp;nbsp; Holy Post Merch Store: https:\/\/www.holypost.com\/shop &amp;nbsp; The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. &amp;nbsp; ","author_name":"The Holy Post","author_url":"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/holypost","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/39084215\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/item\/39084215"}