{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Another Pass at X-Men Dark Phoenix","description":"   This week on Another Pass, Sam and Case are joined by Randy Allain and Kris Ingersoll to tackle the flatscan of a film that was X-Men: Dark Phoenix! Together, they explore where this cosmic finale lost its spark, what could\u2019ve made it soar, and why the Dark Phoenix saga might be one of Hollywood\u2019s hardest stories to get right. #AnotherPass #XMen #DarkPhoenix #MarvelMovies #ComicBookFilms #MoviePodcast   Another Pass Full Episode Originally aired: October 17, 2025    Music by Vin Macri and Matt Brogan   Podcast Edited by Sophia Ricciardi   Certain Point Of View is a podcast network brining you all sorts of nerdy goodness! From Star Wars role playing, to Disney day dreaming, to video game love, we've got the show for you!   Learn more on our website: https:\/\/www.certainpov.com   Support us on Patreon! patreon.com\/CertainPOVMedia   Join us on Discord: https:\/\/discord.gg\/wcHHer4   PODCAST SHOWS: \u25b6 Another Pass - https:\/\/www.certainpov.com\/another-pass-podcast     Outline Introduction and Podcast Setup (00:00 - 11:12) Hosts Case Aiken and Sam Alicea introduce the episode focusing on X-Men Dark Phoenix. Guests Randy Elaine and Chris Ingersoll join the discussion; both co-host Media Lit podcast. Initial Impressions and Beginning of Film Discussion (11:12 - 20:59) Analysis of the opening space mission scene and its visual\/aesthetic choices. General approval of the X-Men team roster in Dark Phoenix. Strengths of Characters and Performances (20:59 - 30:59) Appreciation for Sophie Turner's performance with Jean Grey. Discussion of Magneto\u2019s portrayal by Michael Fassbender. \u200d Xavier\u2019s Character Arc and Franchise Context (30:59 - 41:10) Examination of Xavier\u2019s complexities as an idealistic and flawed leader. Reflection on his manipulation and ego, with a key scene involving him being made to walk up stairs. \ufe0f Critiques: Villains and Plot Issues (41:11 - 50:27) Strong criticism of the d\u2019Bari alien race as villains. Weakness of action sequences involving these aliens. Character Development and Timeline Problems (50:27 - 01:00:35) Concern over the lack of emotional investment in characters\u2019 relationships. Confusing timeline spanning decades but not reflected in characters' aging or interactions. Death of Mystique and Emotional Impact (01:00:35 - 01:11:32) Mixed feelings about Mystique\u2019s death scene. Discussion about studio and star politics influencing character presence. \ufe0f Critique of Dialogue and Character Interactions (01:11:32 - 01:22:42) Criticism of a line spoken by Raven about 'Ex Women' as inauthentic pandering. Suggestions for how to better write character tension and relationship dynamics. Pitches for Reworking the Film: Sam\u2019s Pitch (01:22:43 - 01:33:08) Sam proposes minor tweaks to the film\u2019s first act. Suggestions to extend screen time for Dazzler and build out Jean\u2019s emotional journey. Pitches for Reworking the Film: Randy\u2019s Pitch (01:33:08 - 01:43:57) Randy removes the alien villains and replaces them with Mr. Sinister (Kevin Bacon). Incorporates Hellfire Club and Magneto\u2019s acolytes to enrich villain roster. Pitches for Reworking the Film: Chris\u2019s Pitch (01:43:57 - 01:54:56) Chris focuses on deeper human and emotional connections. Suggests expanded political and social contexts, with Charles juggling idealism and manipulation. Pitches for Reworking the Film: Case\u2019s Pitch (01:54:56 - 02:04:42) Case agrees with removing aliens, focusing on emotional stakes and mutant-only conflicts. Adds more everyday heroics and character interactions in the school environment. Concluding Remarks and Show Promotions (02:04:42 - 02:06:15) Round of plugs for guest podcasts and social media. Preview of next episode topic (Highlander 2). Fascinating but Flawed (01:31 - 11:12) X-Men Dark Phoenix is viewed as 'fascinating but flawed,' with a promising roster and good beginning but faltering in villain construction and emotional depth. Strong Performances (20:59 - 30:59) The original cast and comic accuracy provide strong foundations, especially the performances of Fassbender\u2019s Magneto and McAvoy\u2019s Xavier. Critique of Alien Subplot (41:11 - 50:27) The alien d\u2019Bari subplot is criticized as confusing and unengaging, detracting from the core mutant stories. \u23f3 Timeline and Relationship Issues (50:27 - 01:00:35) Timeline and character relationship development, particularly Jean Grey\u2019s 10-year arc with Cyclops, lack coherence and emotional impact. Mystique\u2019s Death Impact (01:00:35 - 01:11:32) Mystique\u2019s death and screen presence suffer due to offscreen issues, weakening potential emotional payoff. Pitches for Improvement (01:22:43 - 02:04:42) Pitches emphasize removing alien plotlines, deepening mutant character interactions, and making Charles Xavier a complex antagonist with a redemption arc. Need for Better Pacing (01:59:57 - 02:06:15) Consensus that better pacing, emotional beats, and clearer motivations would strengthen the film\u2019s impact. \ufe0f Chemistry Recognition (20:59 - 30:59) Recognition of Sophie Turner and Ty Sheridan\u2019s chemistry despite limited script support. School Renaming Suggestion (01:54:56 - 02:04:42) Recommendation to rename the school to honor Raven (Mystique) rather than Jean Grey due to emotional significance. \ufe0f Podcast Engagement (02:04:42 - 02:06:15) Acknowledgement of the podcast as a space for deep media discussion and fan engagement. ","author_name":"Another Pass Podcast","author_url":"http:\/\/anotherpass.libsyn.com\/website","html":"