{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"391 - M5 Everywhere: iPad Pro, Vision Pro, and the 14-inch MacBook Pro","description":" The latest In Touch With iOS with Dave he is joined by Jill McKinley, Jeff Gamet, Chuck Joiner, Eric Bolden, Marty Jencius, Ben Roethig. covers Apple\u2019s new Vision Pro M5, iPad Pro M5, and MacBook Pro M5, along with reactions to the Apple TV rebrand, AirPods Pro 3 inflight experiences, and iOS 26.1 beta updates. The panel debates upgrade value, trade-ins, and Apple\u2019s AI direction\u2014while delivering laughs about blood-test preorders, \u201cno-good sons,\u201d and iPads that go \u201cwomp-womp.\u201d The show notes are at InTouchwithiOS.com  Direct Link to Audio  Links to our Show Give us a review on Apple Podcasts! CLICK HERE we would really appreciate it! Click this link Buy me a Coffee to support the show we would really appreciate it. intouchwithios.com\/coffee  Another way to support the show is to become a Patreon member patreon.com\/intouchwithios Website: In Touch With iOS YouTube Channel In Touch with iOS Magazine on Flipboard Facebook Page BlueSky Mastodon X Instagram Threads Summary In Episode 391 of In Touch With iOS, host David Ginsburg welcomes Jill McKinley, Marty Jencius, Jeff Gamet, Chuck Joiner, Eric Bolden, and Ben Roethig to unpack Apple\u2019s October announcements\u2014and crack a few jokes along the way. The panel dives into the launch of the Vision Pro M5, iPad Pro M5, and 14-inch MacBook Pro M5, exploring how Apple\u2019s latest chip is showing up everywhere\u2014from spatial computing to creative workflows. Marty admits to pre-ordering the new Vision Pro while having blood drawn, leading to the episode\u2019s funniest moment (\u201cThey took my blood, I gave Apple my money\u201d). Jeff immediately volunteers to be Marty\u2019s \u201cno-good son\u201d to inherit the old headset, sparking laughter about \u201cdevice reallocation\u201d policies. Discussion turns to the Vision Pro\u2019s new dual-knit band and Hover headset accessory, which redistributes weight to the crown of the head. Dave likens it to \u201cflipping up granny sunglasses,\u201d while Ben compares it to wearing \u201cnight-vision goggles.\u201d Chuck\u2019s wise counsel: \u201cWait for the M5 Pro\u2014patience beats payment.\u201d MacBook Pro M5 specs are examined in detail\u201410-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 24-hour battery life (cue the joke: \u201cif you never touch it\u201d), and no Wi-Fi 7 support. Marty shares his \u201ctrade-up philosophy\u201d while Jeff laments his $800 trade-in offer: \u201cIt lost that much value that fast?\u201d Chuck recommends Apple\u2019s refurb store, calling it \u201cthe best deal Apple doesn\u2019t advertise.\u201d The crew also explores the iPad Pro M5, agreeing that performance gains are meaningful but most users won\u2019t need to upgrade. Jill admits her iPad mostly serves as a \u201csleep-aid game console,\u201d while Eric says Vision Pro has cut into his tablet use entirely. Other highlights:     \u2022    Vision Pro M5\u2019s 120 Hz refresh rate and better cooling.     \u2022    No Wi-Fi 6E bump\u2014for $3,500, that drew audible groans.     \u2022    AI readiness of the M5 chip sparks debate on whether Apple even has an \u201cAI strategy.\u201d     \u2022    Apple TV\u2019s rebranding from \u201cTV+\u201d to \u201cApple TV,\u201d which the panel calls \u201cpeak confusion.\u201d     \u2022    AirPods Pro 3 flight test: Marty\u2019s seal so tight it caused ear \u201cpop-pop-pop\u201d moments, while Dave says noise-canceling on planes \u201ckills all sound, including your will to chat.\u201d   Topics and Links Breaking News  Apple Debuts New iPad Pro With M5 Chip, Faster Charging, and More Apple Announces New 14-Inch MacBook Pro With M5 Chip Apple Updates Vision Pro With M5 Chip, Dual Knit Band, and 120Hz Support Here's Everything Apple Announced Today  In Touch With Vision Pro this week.  visionOS 26.1 Beta 3 Release Notes | Apple Developer Documentation Apple Updates Vision Pro With M5 Chip, Dual Knit Band, and 120Hz Support \ud83e\udde0 Apple Vision Pro: M2 vs. M5 Comparison Apple Vision Pro - Technical Specifications Overview The Vision Pro M5 refines Apple\u2019s first-generation spatial computer powered by the M2 chip. While maintaining the same physical design and R1 co-processor, the M5 version delivers faster performance, a higher refresh-rate display, longer battery life, and a more comfortable headband. It\u2019s an evolutionary update rather than a redesign, aimed at smoother visuals and greater efficiency. \u2699\ufe0f Key Feature Comparison Feature Vision Pro (M2) Vision Pro (M5) Chip & Architecture Apple M2 (8-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine) Apple M5 (10-core CPU, 10-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine) Memory Bandwidth 100 GB\/s 153 GB\/s Display & Rendering Up to 100 Hz refresh rate Up to 120 Hz refresh rate with improved clarity Performance Excellent for visionOS apps and multitasking Up to 50% faster in system and AI operations Battery Life \u2248 2 hours general use, 2.5 hours video playback \u2248 2.5 hours general use, 3 hours video playback Headband \/ Fit Solo Knit or Dual Loop Band New Dual Knit Band with improved comfort and balance Design & Weight 600\u2013650 g (excluding battery) 750\u2013800 g, same external design Storage Options 256 GB, 512 GB, or 1 TB 256 GB, 512 GB, or 1 TB Compatibility Supports all visionOS apps and accessories Fully backward-compatible with M2 accessories \ud83d\udca1 Summary The Vision Pro M5 enhances Apple\u2019s spatial computing experience with smoother motion, faster response times, and slightly longer battery life. It remains visually identical to the M2 model but offers better ergonomics and efficiency. For existing M2 owners, the upgrade is optional\u2014your experience remains excellent\u2014but for professionals working with AR creation, 3D rendering, or multitasking, the M5\u2019s performance headroom makes a noticeable difference. No trade-ins for AVP Apple doesn\u2019t offer trade-in option for M5 Vision Pro upgrades - 9to5Mac Dave and Marty review Hover Headset New Items Apple Vision Pro Dual Knit Band Sizing  Well well well, what do we have here\u2026 : r\/VisionPro   Logitech Muse - Apple Apple to sell Sony Playstation VR Controllers Beta this week.  Apple Seeds Third Betas of iOS 26.1, iPadOS 26.1, macOS Tahoe 26.1 and More Everything new in iOS 26.1 beta 3 - 9to5Mac iOS 26.1 beta 3 reveals new third-party AI integrations may be coming soon - 9to5Mac Apple Seeds Third Public Betas of iOS 26.1, iPadOS 26.1 and macOS Tahoe 26.1 - MacRumors Apple Releases AirPods Pro 2, AirPods Pro 3 and AirPods 4 Firmware for Public Beta Testers - MacRumors Apple Preparing iOS 26.0.2 Update for iPhones - MacRumors In Touch With Mac this week Apple releases macOS Tahoe 26.1 beta 3 for developers Apple Announces New 14-Inch MacBook Pro With M5 Chip Compare Mac models iPad M5 UpgrADE Apple Debuts New iPad Pro With M5 Chip, Faster Charging, and More Compare iPad models Try older model comparisons.  Other Topics Dave travelled to Kansas City to take in a Chiefs game and of course had to do some testing with the AirPods Pro 3 and the listening mode on the flights.  F1 movie released to streaming and Apple TV+ rebranding 'F1: The Movie' Coming to Apple TV+ on Friday, December 12 Apple TV+ Being Rebranded as Apple TV Eddy Cue explains why Apple TV dropped the Plus, and how it's not confusing Announcements Macstock 9 has wrapped for 2025. Attendees will receive a link for the session recordings when  they\u2019re ready in 30-45 days. If you missed Macstock we missed you! Why not purchase a digital pass to relive all the amazing presentations? Click the link below to purchase the digital pass. Macstock X has already been announced July 10,11,12, 2026 hopeful you all can join us.  Macstock IX Digital Pass Our Host Dave Ginsburg is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users and shares his wealth of knowledge of iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, Apple TV and related technologies. Visit the YouTube channel https:\/\/youtube.com\/intouchwithios follow him on Mastodon @daveg65, , BlueSky @daveg65  and the show @intouchwithios   Our Regular Contributors Jeff Gamet is a podcaster, technology blogger, artist, and author. Previously, he was The Mac Observer\u2019s managing editor, and Smile\u2019s TextExpander Evangelist. You can find him on Mastadon @jgamet Pixelfed @jgamet@pixelfed.social and Bluesky @jgamet.bsky.social\u202c Podcasts The Context Machine Podcast  Retro Rewatch Retro Rewatch His YouTube channel https:\/\/youtube.com\/jgamet Marty Jencius, Ph.D., is a professor of counselor education at Kent State University, where he researches, writes, and trains about using technology in teaching and mental health practice. His podcasts include Vision Pro Files, The Tech Savvy Professor and Circular Firing Squad Podcast. Find him at jencius@mastodon.social  https:\/\/thepodtalk.net  Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him by email at eabolden@mac.com, on Mastodon at @eabolden@techhub.social, on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision ProFiles podcast.   Jill McKinley works in enterprise software, server administration, and IT A lifelong tech enthusiast, she started her career with Windows but is now an avid Apple fan. Beyond technology, she shares her insights on nature, faith, and personal growth through her podcasts\u2014Buzz Blossom & Squeak, Start with Small Steps, and The Bible in Small Steps. Watch her content on YouTube at @startwithsmallsteps and follow her on X @schmern. Find all her work at http:\/\/jillfromthenorthwoods.com  Chuck Joiner is the host of MacVoices and hosts video podcasts with influential members of the Apple community. Make sure to visit macvoices.com and subscribe to his podcast. You can follow him on Twitter @chuckjoiner and join his MacVoices Facebook group. Ben Roethig Former Associate Editor of GeekBeat.TV and host of the Tech Hangout and Deconstruct with Patrice  Mac user since the mid 90s. Tech support specialist. X @benroethig and all other social media @benroethig.   Website: https:\/\/roethigtech.com\/ ","author_name":"In Touch with iOS","author_url":"https:\/\/intouchwithios.com","html":"