{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"504-When Your Words Actually Bring Life (And How to Avoid Death): Interview With Ann &amp; Dave Wilson","description":"When Your Words Actually Bring Life (And How to Avoid Death): Interview With Ann &amp;amp; Dave Wilson Do you remember when you first fell in love\u2014how easy it was to cheer him on? You\u2019d light up at his stories. You\u2019d say, \u201cYou\u2019re amazing!\u201d and mean it. You noticed everything good. But somewhere along the way, the cheers turned into corrections. The same man who once felt like your hero now feels like your project. And instead of applause, he mostly hears... boo. That\u2019s what Ann Wilson discovered the day her husband, Dave, vulnerably told a room full of women that marriage sometimes felt that way to him\u2014like he\u2019d walked off the football field to a stadium full of boos. Ann was stunned. She thought she was helping him. But in that moment, she realized how her words had chipped away at his confidence and joy. I was so honored to talk with Dave and Ann Wilson\u2014pastors, marriage speakers, authors of Vertical Marriage, and co-hosts of FamilyLife Today. For more than 30 years, they\u2019ve led thousands of couples toward hope, healing, and connection. But their story didn\u2019t start with success. The Power of Words in Scripture Scripture is clear: \u201cThe tongue has the power of life and death.\u201d \u2014 Proverbs 18:21 Your words can resurrect a weary heart\u2014or crush it. They can draw your husband home or make him quietly retreat. And as Dave and Ann share, the transformation didn\u2019t start with more compliments or clever communication\u2014it started with repentance. A Night of Repentance and New Beginning in Marriage Ten years into marriage, they were on the verge of losing everything. Dave was busy building ministry\u2013 starting a new church at home and a chaplain for the Detroit Lions, often times away traveling with the team. Meanwhile, Ann was at home with two little boys, beginning to feel lonely, angry, and done. One night, sitting in a parked car late at night on their 10 year anniversary, she finally said, \u201cI\u2019ve lost all my feelings for you.\u201d Dave was stunned. He thought they were great. Ann had never shared otherwise. How could she say he was disregarding her? How could she say she felt alone and he was always away? As he reached for his planner to defend himself, the the gentle and firm voice of the Holy Spirit whispered: \u201cRepent.\u201d He dropped his arguments and dropped to his knees\u2014right there in the front seat of their Honda Accord. He realized he had put himself first instead of Jesus. In that sacred moment, Ann felt conviction too. God showed her that she\u2019d made her husband and marriage an idol and she had been wanting Dave to fill every need, when that was never the role God was supposed to have. She got on her knees as well, surrendering her expectations back to the Lord. That night became the beginning of something new\u2014a vertical marriage, grounded in repentance and intimacy with Jesus first. When You Stop Cheering on Your Spouse Years later, when Ann shared her \u201cbooing\u201d moment at church, she used a visual: a plant. She explained that when you're dating, you pick a healthy, vibrant plant\u2014your husband. But after a few years, you start noticing brown leaves. you take out the clippers, thinking it\u2019s your job to prune him. Before long, you've hacked away so much that there\u2019s barely a stump left. After this sermon, Ann saw a couple that in the auditorium that stayed long after everyone had left. She approached them and saw an older man, head in his hands, tears dropping heavy on the ground, his wife sitting next to him bewildered. When asked what was wrong, he simply pointed at the stump and said, &quot;That's me.&quot; It\u2019s not that we don\u2019t love our husbands. We do. But we\u2019ve forgotten that change is God\u2019s job\u2014not ours. Our job is to water with words that bring life. How to Speak Life (When You Want to Yell) Ann admits she used to \u201cspeak her mind\u201d freely\u2014then justify it as honesty. But over time, God taught her a new rhythm of restraint and prayer, asking \u201cLord, should I say this? If yes, when should I say it? And how should I say it?\u201d Not in an anxious way, but surrendered and thoughtful, knowing how much her words matter. Just that short prayer created space for the Holy Spirit to guide her words. One night, when Dave mentioned getting criticism on his sermons, her first instinct was to correct him (\u201cMaybe if you studied more\u2026\u201d). But instead, she prayed that quick prayer\u2014and said, \u201cI can\u2019t imagine the weight you carry, with thousands relying on your walk with God.\u201d Dave turned around, pulled her close and whispered, \u201cYou are my life.\u201d Her empathy, not critique, drew him near. Words That Heal Ann now also prays daily, \u201cGod, show me the greatness in my husband.\u201d That prayer changes everything\u2014because God always sees the greatness He planted there, even when we can\u2019t. Romans 12:2 says, \u201cBe transformed by the renewing of your mind.\u201d When we ask God to renew how we think about our spouse, our words follow. And when our words change, the whole atmosphere of the home begins to heal. \u201cGracious words are a honeycomb, sweet to the soul and healing to the bones.\u201d \u2014 Proverbs 16:24 Speaking Life Doesn\u2019t Mean Losing Your Voice This isn\u2019t about silencing yourself or ignoring real problems, but when encouragement becomes your default, your occasional hard truth carries more weight. Your words no longer sound like attack\u2014they sound like love. And as Dave says, \u201cWhen you praise your man, he becomes better. Critique doesn\u2019t motivate\u2014it deflates. But genuine admiration calls out his God-given potential.\u201d Repentance Starts Revival If you\u2019ve been critical, impatient, or weary\u2014we get it. And it\u2019s okay. The path back is repentance. It\u2019s not a shame-filled, heavy thing. It\u2019s the most freeing thing you can do. Start there. Let God soften your heart again. Ask Him to show you the greatness in your spouse. Then, begin to speak it out\u2014one small sentence at a time. You can do this. &amp;nbsp; Blessings, &amp;nbsp; The Delight Your Marriage Team &amp;nbsp; PS - If you're ready for the next step in healing your marriage, even if you're the only one doing the work, we're ready to talk with you. Schedule a free Clarity Call at&amp;nbsp;delightym.com\/cc or call +1 332-239-2379. PPS - Here is a quote from a recent graduate: &quot;I am in control of my mood by controlling my own behavior instead of letting it get set for me by my husband's behavior and what I expect of him. I have released expectations of my husband. I see him as God's son now, which means he is NOT my responsibility to fix, direct, correct, discipline, etc. and instead I love, support, encourage and pray for him.&amp;nbsp; I am less controlling of my husband and I am more content with life in general.&quot; ","author_name":"Delight Your Marriage","author_url":"https:\/\/delightyourmarriage.com","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/38545515\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/item\/38545515"}