{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Ep 20:Privacy and the Internet; Where Privet Rights Meet Public Wrongs","description":"Welcome one and all to Professor Metal's Irate Debate and Calamitous Commentary with the Philosophical Chain Gang.\r\nThis episode, we will be covering Doxxing.\r\nRyvers offers an explanation of what Doxxing is\r\nSean clarifies the distinctions in the definition, including that it specifically includes the release of vital information\r\nBruce asks wherein the line lies between Doxxing and just talking about someone\r\nSean explains that intent is largely irrelevant in the definition of Doxxing, but that what we will be discussing a more... malicious form thereof.\r\nBruce talks about things from back in the day that already have personal information that is widely disseminated: the Phone Book (See Whitepages if you do not know what these are).\r\nRyver and Sean discuss that these are easily stopped if one does not wish to be found in them and that these are not useful in these contacts.\r\nBruce talks about how if everyone is included in this information, that people are less likely to be terrible to each other.\r\nRyver brings up the localised nature of these means and how this is different from Doxxing.\r\nSean explains the differences in celebrity culture between then and now, and how Doxxing effects people in ways that were not likely to be problematic in the same way in the past.\r\nSean gives a brief history of the origins of what we now call Doxxing.\r\nRyver wonders if Doxxing can be used in a positive fashion, and that he does not believe it can.\r\nBruce proposes that most people will believe it to be negative, save in a specific circumstance that can only be resolved via special pleading.\r\nSean explains that even if we could find an issue where we might find it be universally acceptable, it might still be an immoral means of accomplishing these goals.\r\nThe conversation turns ad hitlerum, and Professor Metal takes umbrage at the implication of Hitler as the archetypal villain.\r\nBruce decides that the use of Doxxing is perhaps immoral, whereas Sean thinks that the practice itself is not immoral, but the uses of it definitely are.\r\nSean raises the possibility of this being a question of Justice as retributive or preventive.\r\nBruce and Sean come to the conclusion that Doxxing will likely continue to be used in awful ways, and that it is likely to continue being problematic.\r\nRyver discusses that there is a certain level of information that is not problematic, and that this information that leads to someone else actively seeking the target out is not an immoral act on the part of the person releasing this information.\r\nSean debates the fine points of Ryver's argument.\r\nBruce talks about the responsibility to protect each other's anonymity, which Sean disagrees with.\r\nSean comes back to and further explains his belief that Doxxing is more of a moral grey area than it is immoral.\r\nBruce and Ryver argue the points of this view.\r\nSean presents the possibility of Doxxing as social policy issue.\r\nThe Philosophers discuss the social and personal implications of Doxxing as it effects jobs, social interactions, personal safety, and general societal welfare.\r\nBruce and Sean discuss the effects of this on anonymity.\r\nRyver brings up anonymity in regards to celebrity culture.\r\nSean and Bruce discuss the impacts of celebrity and whether or not those in the culture should be treated differently in regards to personal information.\r\nRyver expresses the belief that celebrity does not, or at least should not, confer different status.\r\nSean expresses disagreement with Ryver's argument.\r\nRyver defends his argument.\r\nSean and Bruce discuss the special place in culture that celebrity occupy.\r\nThe Philosophers discuss the difference between gradually attained and immediately gained celebrity status.\r\nThe Philosophers discuss the backlash that can often effect people with names or usernames similar in some way to people in celebrity culture.\r\nBruce expresses the belief that Doxxing sort of comes down to either bullying or vigilantism, and as such is, at best, irresponsible.\r\nSean suggests that Doxxing is ultimately a power game in a great many ways.\r\nRyver takes The Last Word\r\nRyver discusses having met a fair number of people with a great deal of celebrity, and that they are largely just like everyone else. Celebrity does not grant one charisma, confidence, or force of personality that is often expected. Ryver gives tips on how to deal with meeting someone of celebrity.\r\nProfessor Metal tells you to help support the Podcast. Or Else.\r\nAnd as always please give us your honest review on iTunes and Stitcher. It helps us make the show better with every one we get to read.\r\nHelp keep the show going and the moon safe by supporting us on Patreon\r\nhttps:\/\/patreon.com\/Philosophy\r\nHelp keep us from disappearing by engaging us on the social media platform of your choice:\r\nhttp:\/\/www.philosophicalchaingang.com\r\nhttp:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/professormetal\r\nhttp:\/\/www.twitter.com\/PChainGang\r\nhttps:\/\/www.facebook.com\/PChainGang\r\nhttps:\/\/www.pinterest.com\/PChainGang\/\r\nhttp:\/\/pchaingang.tumblr.com\/","author_name":"Professor Metal's Irate Debate and Calamitous Commentary","author_url":"http:\/\/www.PhilosophicalChainGang.com","html":"