{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Dart, Flutter, and WasmGC with \u00d6mer A\u011facan and Martin Kustermann ","description":"In this episode of WasmAssembly, your host Thomas Steiner is joined by \u00d6mer A\u011facan and Martin Kustermann from the Dart team at Google. They explore Dart, the language behind Flutter, and how Dart nearly landed in V8 alongside JavaScript, and why Flutter doubled down on Dart and WebAssembly Garbage Collection (WasmGC). \u00d6mer and Martin then share insights on Dart\u2019s performance leap from dart2js to dart2wasm, its potential beyond the browser, and what the WasmGC transition means for developers and the broader ecosystem. Finally, they look at Jaspr, Dart-only web apps, or how different browsers are handling WasmGC. This episode again is packed with sharp technical detail and bold visions for the future of WebAssembly.  Resources:   Dart \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/4kfijgD&amp;nbsp;   Flutter \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/4kh4jDi&amp;nbsp;   Before Flutter | Rubber Duck Engineering | Episode #100 \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/4nujV9g&amp;nbsp;   State of Developer Ecosystem Report \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/4lrmya6&amp;nbsp;   What's new in Flutter \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/44xx0Gl&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;   Dart &amp;amp; Flutter momentum at Google I\/O 2025 \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/3TgUr1p&amp;nbsp;   Accessibility in Flutter on the Web \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/4l2xfQB&amp;nbsp;   Stateful hot reload in DartPad \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/4nokFg1&amp;nbsp;   WebAssembly (Wasm) compilation \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/3I8Ngpx&amp;nbsp;   Support for WebAssembly (Wasm) \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/45L0wdR&amp;nbsp;   WebAssembly Garbage Collection (WasmGC) now enabled by default in Chrome \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/3G7qLAS&amp;nbsp;   Wasm-feature-detect library \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/4evqS5Y&amp;nbsp;   A new way to bring garbage collected programming languages efficiently to WebAssembly \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/4keW0rt&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;   [dart2wasm] Support non-JS wasm runtimes \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/44wr3t3&amp;nbsp;   Safari bug: Umbrella: Using Canvas image sources between different canvases and canvas types is slow \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/3TmuSvM&amp;nbsp;   Firefox bug: OffscreenCanvas.transferToImageBitmap incurs a copy \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/3GoIGD2&amp;nbsp;   \u00d6mer A\u011facan on LinkedIn \u2192 https:\/\/goo.gle\/4lA6fYB   Martin Kustermann on LinkedIn \u2192&amp;nbsp;https:\/\/goo.gle\/3TffQbc &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;    ","author_name":"WasmAssembly","author_url":"http:\/\/sites.libsyn.com\/520688\/site","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/37400120\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/item\/37400120"}