{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"#156 The importance of empathy at work in times of change with June Hogan","description":"\u201cSympathy is rushing to turn the light on into someone\u2019s darkness so that we feel better, whereas empathy is being prepared to sit with somebody in their darkness and connect with them and just be there for them.\u201d In this episode, I\u2019m joined by June Hogan. June helps organisations to do redundancy and layoffs well! So of course I\u2019m a fan. It\u2019s never easy or simple when companies have to let people go, but it can be done well, and with empathy and fairness. This is what June\u2019s work is all about.  We talk about the difference between empathy and sympathy when you are leading change, or letting your team go. How organisations can do redundancies well.  And June shares her story of embracing life-changing moments, sitting with the discomfort of the unknown, and discovering that transformation can often be waiting on the other side of uncertainty. Our conversation is all about what it means to open new doors in your life and career. Whether you\u2019re facing redundancy, longing for something different, or simply rethinking your relationship with work, we dig into the messy, honest reality of change. June shares the wisdom she's gained from not just walking through her own doors, but from supporting others. The highlights: 04:09 From HR to Coach: June\u2019s pivot  11:32 Finding your niche after redundancy 14:16 The myth of having it all figured out (and why it\u2019s okay to be \u201cmessy\u201d) 17:46 Re-thinking identity, self-worth, and shame after losing your job 18:49 The overlooked emotional toll of delivering bad news at work 23:50 Sympathy vs. Empathy (and how to truly support people in tough moments) 32:35 The pace of change: why redundancy and layoffs feel more sudden than ever 36:07 The double-edged sword of too much (or too little) warning 43:28 How to give yourself permission to \u201cpause\u201d and feel during change   Things that help June navigate change: Soundtrack: \u201cCan\u2019t Stop the Feeling\u201d by Justin Timberlake (yes, the Trolls movie one). Books: The Gifts of Imperfection and Atlas of the Heart by Bren\u00e9 Brown    One piece of advice: \u201cJust acknowledge how you\u2019re feeling, don\u2019t rush it, and give yourself permission to take time and reach out to others. Slowing down doesn\u2019t mean standing still. It\u2019s about bringing self-awareness to what\u2019s really happening, so you can move forward on your own terms.\u201d   About June Hogan June understands the emotional and practical challenges of both delivering and receiving difficult news. Having experienced redundancy herself, twice, she appreciates how tough that journey can be. After redundancy, she took a career break overseas and pursued professional coach training. She found the experience life-changing and returned to the UK with a clear vision: to launch her own outplacement firm. Wildwood Coaching was founded in 2019. Her specialism in outplacement support reflects a combination of personal experience, professional coaching qualifications, and core values. June has built a trusted team of experienced, qualified associates who share a commitment to a person-centred and empathetic approach.  Website: www.wildwoodcoaching.co.uk   Work with Eleanor Eleanor supports individuals, teams and organisations through change. Whether it\u2019s coaching or large scale organisational change through communications and training.   Work with Eleanor 121 as your coach, when you are starting something new, to develop the idea, to create the idea, to get it launched.   Book in a Change Mastery for teams session - when your team is navigating change.   Book in a 90 minute workshop - to think through change at work. Join the Another Door Opens 5 Step Programme - a course and community to guide you through the mess of change to find calm, joy and opportunity.   Buy the Book - Another Door Opens - 5 steps to navigating change.   Instagram:instagram\/anotherdooruk LinkedIn:https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/eleanor-tweddell\/  Website: www.another-door-opens.com   Produced by winteraudio.co.uk   ","author_name":"Another Door Opens","author_url":"http:\/\/anotherdoor.libsyn.com\/website","html":"