{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Episode 596 - is\/was brewing (with Mike Schallau)","description":"Although he might use the term \u201csilly little beers,\u201d Mike Schallau\u2019s is\/was brewing is making some of the most thoughtful and impressive saisons anywhere in the country right here in Chicago. We travelled up to his Ravenswood brewery and taproom to talk about those beers and how he transitioned his nearly six year-old brewing project from using other people\u2019s spaces to his own in the last year and how that\u2019s allowed him to dive deeper into the wide range of interesting ingredients and experiments he\u2019s become known for. We get into the idiosyncrasies of saison from the outside perception of the drinkers of the style, to changing people\u2019s perceptions of Brettanomyces, why people are more important than the concept of \u201cterroir,\u201d and how he develops his impressive restaurant and brewery collaborations. But also, there\u2019s some throwback talk to his Pipeworks days, a long tangent on Fant\u00f4me, a dive into the prison hooch subreddit, some risky urban foraging, and Mike\u2019s picks for his essential Chicagoland 6-pack.  Beers Sampled Will Be Always Zag Long Thai Double Rainbow (collaboration with Half Acre)   ","author_name":"ABV Chicago Craft Beer Podcast","author_url":"http:\/\/www.abvchicago.com","html":"