{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"128. Hot Spot: Scott Linder of Mat\u016b +\u00a0Mat\u016b Kai","description":"In this episode of On The Pass, host Gabriel Ornelas sits down with Scott Linder \u2014 chef, creative collaborator, and co-founder of Mat\u016b and Mat\u016b Kai, two standout restaurants in Los Angeles that are quietly, and powerfully, reshaping the steakhouse as we know it. Scott takes us behind the curtain of Mat\u016b\u2019s vertically integrated model \u2014 built in partnership with First Light Farms in New Zealand \u2014 and shares why owning the full story of the beef, from soil to service, was the only way forward. This isn\u2019t about indulgence \u2014 it\u2019s about responsibility, intention, and the pursuit of better: better farming, better flavor, better systems. We explore:  Scott\u2019s journey from private chef to purpose-driven restaurateur Why First Light Wagyu is considered the most sustainable red meat on the planet The philosophy behind vertical integration and how it impacts quality, ethics, and experience What Mat\u016b is not \u2014 and why dismantling steakhouse clich\u00e9s matters Lessons for chefs and operators looking to build mission-aligned models Scott\u2019s vision for the future \u2014 of hospitality, of steak, of leadership  Whether you\u2019re a chef, a restaurateur, or just someone who cares about where your food comes from, this episode invites you to think more deeply about what\u2019s on your plate \u2014 and who\u2019s behind it. &amp;nbsp; Learn more about Mat\u016b + Mat\u016b Kai:&amp;nbsp; https:\/\/bit.ly\/400bKaG &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Follow Mat\u016b + Mat\u016b Kai on Instagram: https:\/\/bit.ly\/44j2X4M &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Follow On The Pass on Instagram: http:\/\/bit.ly\/3Kvgm1n &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Subscribe to On The Pass on YouTube: https:\/\/bit.ly\/4hajZq8 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Watch On The Pass Original: RARE, A Chef's Story: https:\/\/bit.ly\/3NKDU2N &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Follow our Host, Gabriel Ornelas: http:\/\/bit.ly\/3YS964b &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Learn more about On The Pass: https:\/\/bit.ly\/44rEOsR &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Lets work together! Get in contact: https:\/\/www.onthepass.com &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; ","author_name":"On The Pass","author_url":"https:\/\/www.onthepass.com","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/37244080\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/item\/37244080"}