{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Triggernometry Fallout: What Real Difficult Conversations Sound Like with Katy Jon Went","description":"\ud83c\udf99\ufe0f Triggernometry Fallout: What Real Difficult Conversations Sound Like \u2013 with Katy Jon Went After the now-infamous Triggernometry episode with Deborah Frances-White (the Guilty Feminist) sparked widespread debate, this episode is the antidote. Penny Dee sits down with Katy Jon Went \u2013 speaker, writer, and veteran of difficult conversations \u2013 for a real, respectful, and unfiltered discussion about identity, belief, and backlash in today\u2019s divided world. From confronting family dynamics to defending free speech, Katy brings a lifetime of experience to the table. No spin. No shutdowns. Just proper conversation. \ud83d\udc49 If you\u2019ve ever felt stuck between staying silent and speaking your truth, this one\u2019s for you. \ud83c\udfa7 What You'll Learn: \u2714\ufe0f How to approach controversial topics without confrontation \u2714\ufe0f Why disagreement doesn\u2019t mean disrespect \u2714\ufe0f How to deal with public backlash and online conflict \u2714\ufe0f Why humour and curiosity still matter \u2714\ufe0f The difference between \u201chaving a conversation\u201d and delivering a lecture Enjoyed this episode? \u2705 Please subscribe and leave a 5-star review, and share with someone who needs to hear this. Every download helps us keep the mic on and the conversations honest. \ud83c\udf10 Connect with Katy Jon Went: Website: https:\/\/www.katyjon.com Instagram: https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/katyjonwent \ud83d\udcda Penny\u2019s Book: &amp;nbsp;KWEENS: Happiness Decoded Not your average self-help book. It\u2019s part memoir, part manual, part middle finger to the status quo. Written by Penny Dee, it\u2019s the book you give your best mate\u2026 or your younger self. Available now in paperback, Kindle, and Audible \u2192 Buy KWEENS on Amazon \ud83d\udc9c Sponsor \u2013 SkinGoal Skincare Clinical skincare with a conscience. Perfect for midlife and menopausal skin. Shop now with code PODCAST15 at https:\/\/skingoal.co.uk \ud83d\udc8c Want to get in touch? Email Penny: hello@pennydee.co.uk Follow Penny on Instagram: https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/pennydeeofficial \ud83d\udd70\ufe0f Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and Early Life 00:46 Navigating Identity and Family Dynamics 01:53 The Complexity of Conversations 03:39 Confrontation vs. Conversation 07:43 The Importance of Free Speech 11:27 Changing Beliefs and Open-Mindedness 18:47 Navigating Political and Social Nuances 32:50 Exploring Human Rights in Gender Debates 33:46 Finding Common Ground in Disagreements 34:41 Personal Experiences with Differing Opinions 35:56 The Importance of Open-Minded Conversations 37:26 Navigating Public Discourse and Backlash 44:53 The Role of Humor in Sensitive Topics 55:28 The Impact of Algorithms on Social Discourse 59:07 Encouraging Meaningful Conversations 01:01:38 Final Thoughts and Contact Information ","author_name":"Penny Dee Podcast","author_url":"http:\/\/sites.libsyn.com\/274451\/site","html":"<iframe title=\"Libsyn Player\" style=\"border: none\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/36891855\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/thumbnail\/yes\/direction\/forward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/88AA3C\/\" height=\"90\" width=\"600\" scrolling=\"no\"  allowfullscreen webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen oallowfullscreen msallowfullscreen><\/iframe>","thumbnail_url":"https:\/\/assets.libsyn.com\/secure\/content\/189301825"}