{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"89: Bezos - We\u2019re Going to Need Another Planet","description":"Amazon billionaire Jeff Bezos thinks the U.S. can grow its way out of a massive deficit. He says we need a \u201cgrowth mindset.\u201d Stephanie and Dave call it a \u201csuicide economic model,\u201d and note that growth addiction is exactly what afflicts most policymakers around the world. The dynamic duo discuss the little-understood fact that a shrinking economy can be healthy \u2013 when it accompanies a contracting population. Bezos also proposes that we plunder the universe in order to protect Earth \u201cwe've sent robotic probes to all of the planets in this solar system. This is the good one.\u201d) Also: The Congressional Budget Office lowers U.S. population projections, further stoking the fires of depopulation panic \u2013 the result of a lack of overpopulation literacy Isaac Asimov\u2019s \u201cmetaphor of the bathroom,\u201d about the need for more regulation as our population grows (we dug up great video of Asimov; see link below) The parable of the Mexican fisherman A great poem, Rather Than by Sandy Trust. Featured in an episode of one of our favorite podcasts, Planet Critical (see link below)   MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE Congressional Budget Office Lowers U.S. Population Projectionshttps:\/\/www.cbo.gov\/publication\/61164#_idTextAnchor003 Immigrants Fill the Birth Dearth: U.S. Population Will Crater Without NewcomersNew York Daily News editorialhttps:\/\/www.nydailynews.com\/2025\/01\/17\/immigrants-fill-the-birth-dearth-u-s-population-will-crater-without-newcomers\/ The Interview: From Amazon to Space \u2014 Jeff Bezos Talks Innovation, Progress and What\u2019s Next \u2013 2024 New York Times DealBook Summit, with Andrew Ross Sorkinhttps:\/\/youtu.be\/s71nJQqzYRQ?si=uTMCtPVaXw8WnDeD The Four Hour Work Week - by Tim Ferrisshttps:\/\/fourhourworkweek.com\/ The Story of the Mexican Fishermanhttps:\/\/bemorewithless.com\/the-story-of-the-mexican-fisherman\/ A blog post on the website of Courtney Carver, author of Soulful Simplicity: How Living with Less Can Lead to So Much More, and Gentle: Rest More, Stress Less, and Live the Life You Actually Want Isaac Asimov on World of Ideas \u2013 1988 Interview by Bill Moyershttps:\/\/youtu.be\/CWovZtCQWfE?si=nnxiJJb8LmC026Q_ Planetary Solvency \u2013 Finding Our Balance With Nature \u2013 report by Institute and Faculty of Actuarieshttps:\/\/actuaries.org.uk\/news-and-media-releases\/news-articles\/2025\/jan\/16-jan-25-planetary-solvency-finding-our-balance-with-nature\/ Planetary Solvency: Sandy Trust \u2013 episode of Planet Critical with Rachel DonaldSandy Trust responds to one question with his poem, Rather Thanhttps:\/\/www.planetcritical.com\/p\/planetary-solvency-sandy-trust Give Us Feedback: Record a voice message for us to play on the podcast: 719-402-1400 Send an email to podcast at growthbusters.org The GrowthBusters theme song was written and produced by Jake Fader and sung by Carlos Jones. https:\/\/www.fadermusicandsound.com\/ https:\/\/carlosjones.com\/ On the GrowthBusters podcast, we come to terms with the limits to growth, explore the joy of sustainable living, and provide a recovery program from our society\u2019s growth addiction (economic\/consumption and population). This podcast is part of the GrowthBusters project to raise awareness of overshoot and end our culture\u2019s obsession with, and pursuit of, growth. Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared \u201ccould be the most important film ever made.\u201d Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy. Join the GrowthBusters online community https:\/\/growthbusters.groups.io\/ GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth \u2013 free on YouTube https:\/\/youtu.be\/_w0LiBsVFBo Join the conversation on Facebook https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/GrowthBustersPodcast\/ Make a donation to support this non-profit project. https:\/\/www.growthbusters.org\/donate\/ Archive of GrowthBusters podcast episodes http:\/\/www.growthbusters.org\/podcast\/ Subscribe to GrowthBusters email updates https:\/\/lp.constantcontact.com\/su\/umptf6w\/signup Explore the issues at http:\/\/www.growthbusters.org View the GrowthBusters channel on YouTube Follow the podcast so you don't miss an episode:   ","author_name":"GrowthBusters","author_url":"http:\/\/www.growthbusters.libsyn.com","html":"