{"version":1,"type":"rich","provider_name":"Libsyn","provider_url":"https:\/\/www.libsyn.com","height":90,"width":600,"title":"Boundaries for Entrepreneurs (with Jackson Calame)","description":"Picture a nine-year-old boy in rural Uruguay, walking up to a 21-year-old missionary and asking for bread. Jackson Calame didn't have any on him. It was 9:30 at night, they were rushing home, and he had to send the boy away hungry. The kid ducked his head and walked around him without a word. Jackson felt filthy, he says, comparing his own clean shirt and nice shoes to everything that boy didn't have. That night he decided he'd come back someday and open a little computer rental shop to help the town build an economy. Instead, he says, he felt his face turn to the right and heard a voice tell him to go home, use his education, and help towns like that one for the rest of his life. That's the moment that built the entrepreneur, and the boundaries lesson, at the center of this episode. Jackson is a visionary-entrepreneur coach: founder of First Class Business, founder of the VisionPros Live podcast, and a 20% stakeholder in e-rational marketing, where he built out the client fulfillment process while the agency became one of Canada's 50 fastest-growing startups. He's also, by his own telling, twice divorced, a single father of four, and someone who has spent real time on the floor in a fetal position when entrepreneurship got to be too much. We talk about why setting boundaries as an entrepreneur isn't optional if you want to protect the vision you're building, why treating people (including the virtual assistants so many businesses treat as disposable) with dignity is both a moral stand and good business, and what to do with the doubting voices, yours and everyone else's, that show up the second you try to build something that matters. By the end, Jackson makes the case that a midlife identity crisis or two isn't proof you took a wrong turn. Sometimes it's just the burning that comes before the rebuild. Watch this episode on YouTube: https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=zD20mzHImVI In this episode Why setting boundaries as an entrepreneur is the only way to protect a big vision from burning you out, starting with the boundary Jackson set at age three The mission-trip moment in Uruguay that redirected Jackson from chasing his own comfort to building four ventures meant to help other people build theirs Why treating remote and international workers with dignity (not what Jackson calls "virtual abuse") is both a moral stand and a competitive edge How to answer the "why bother, it's already been done" voice with Dana's cup-of-water-in-the-ocean reframe What it took for Jackson to turn crushing self-doubt, and a mom who kept trying to pull him back into "the safety net of corporate America," into fuel instead of an exit ramp The "empty track" trick for showing up as your best self when literally nobody is watching Timestamps (00:01) Welcome and intro: meet visionary entrepreneur Jackson Calame (04:51) BYU, "a 4.0 in dating, a 0.33 in everything else," and losing his way (06:55) The mission trip to Uruguay: the boy who asked for bread (08:30) The voice that sent Jackson home to study business (11:28) Treating overseas virtual assistants with dignity, not "virtual abuse" (14:16) Setting his first boundary at age three, and the fetal-position moment during his first marriage (20:50) Detractors, self-doubt, and what to do when the people who love you fear for your dream (29:19) The "second in state" trumpet solo and the toxic chase to be the best (30:52) Dana's cup-of-water-in-the-ocean answer to "why even try" (33:50) The empty track and becoming your own LeBron James (36:24) Where to find Jackson: VisionPros Live and First Class Business About Jackson Calame H. Jackson Calame is a visionary-entrepreneur coach who teaches business owners how to build sustainable revenue and become the trusted leader in their market, at a time when, as Dana notes, 96% of businesses fail within their first ten years. He's the founder of First Class Business and of the VisionPros Live podcast, and a 20% stakeholder in e-rational marketing, where he was head of account management building out the client fulfillment journey as the agency became one of Canada's 50 fastest-growing startups. He studied Latin American studies at Brigham Young University and served a two-year mission in Uruguay, where he learned Spanish. He's a single father of four. Learn more at First Class Business, or be a guest on his show at VisionPros Live. Favorite quotes "I heard a voice that said, Jackson, why don't you go home? Take advantage of your education for once. Learn about business and help as many towns like this as you possibly can." \u2014Jackson Calame "We're not meant to be coddled. We're not meant to stay in the nest. We're meant to fly, and we have to have the hard experiences." \u2014Jackson Calame "If I lock in to wanting to be my best and I start to do this in everything that I do in life, that's the only way I'll ever really tap into my full potential." \u2014Jackson Calame Resources mentioned VisionPros Live: Jackson's podcast, where entrepreneurs and founders come on to share their vision (there's a "be our guest" button on the site) First Class Business: Jackson's coaching program for entrepreneurs, built around the idea that "we don't have an easy button for business" The E-Myth by Michael Gerber: the book Jackson recommends first to any entrepreneur underestimating how hard the job really is A TED Talk on addiction and belonging that Jackson credits with reframing how he thinks about connection and community (title and speaker not stated on air) Related episodes The Courageous Life: Crafting Your Own Terms: Marni Battista's story of rebuilding her life and business from scratch after a devastating injury, another entrepreneur who had to choose herself before she could choose her next chapter. Entrepreneurial Success: Habits of a Maverick: more on the daily habits and mindset that separate entrepreneurs who make it from the 96% who don't. Stop Winging It: A Leader's Guide to Resilience: a natural next listen on building the resilience to keep leading through the doubt, yours and everyone else's. Subscribe & connect If this episode gave you something to sit with, follow Phoenix and Flame so you never miss an episode: all apps in one place, or jump straight to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or YouTube. And if it moved you, leave a review; it's the easiest way to help another listener find the show. Learn more about Phoenix and Flame, connect with Dana, and listen to more episodes here. Curious where your own boundaries stand? Take my free Work Boundaries Quiz: danaskaggs.com\/quiz ","author_name":"Phoenix and Flame Podcast","author_url":"https:\/\/phoenixandflame.com","html":"